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[Merry]

1851:

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[Qwackers]

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[Qwackers]

Hi , Can we trace Thomas father , I think he married a Mary Maryland in rainford , but can't see a fathers name mentioned .

[Qwackers]

Hi , Have we any idea who Thomas married there is a marriage in Prescot around 1847 to a Ann Easton , but there is also a marriage to a Mary Maryland in Rainford These places were not far from St. Helens . Thanks

[Merry]

I would buy the 1838 birth cert for James to see if it's the right father and if it is, what the mother's maiden name actually says. Unfortunately the mmn is not given on Lancs BMD:

http://www.ukbmdcertificateordering....%7CSH%7C&lang=

[Qwackers]

Hi , do we know where Thomas was born and who he married ?

[Merry]

No. To find out who he married you need to start with the birth certificate for James and hope it is for the right couple's child. If it is, then hopefully you will be able to read the mother's maiden name and also any previous married surnames she had, which may help with finding her marriage to Thomas.

I would suggest you purchase the certificate from Lancs BMD as you may have a better chance of reading the certificate than from the GRO copy.

At the moment we have no way of knowing how old Thomas was or where he came from or when and where he died, so finding out more about him may be tricky.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Qwackers

Hi , Can we trace Thomas father , I think he married a Mary Maryland in rainford , but can't see a fathers name mentioned .

In general, marriage records from before civil registration don't give further family information such as father's name and occupation.

It could turn out this is the right marriage if that birth certificate is not for the right James or the mmn has been completely mis-read at the GRO. I note that Lancs OPC version of the same marriage (below) had the bride as Mary Markland not Maryland!

Marriage: 26 Aug 1822 All Saints, Rainford, Lancashire, England
Thomas Eccleston - (X), Collier, Bachelor, Of this Parish
Mary Markland - (X), Spinster, Of this Parish
Witness: Margaret Knowles, (X); John Knowles, (X)
Married by Banns by: William Ellam Minister
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1831, Page 80, Entry 239
Source: LDS Film 1657567

EDIT: here's the image:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

I wasn't sure why you were asking about the 1847 marriage to Ann Easton? (btw, her name was Eaton not Easton on the marriage and Heaton on the births of subsequent children, in case you are looking for it again).

[Merry]

On the 1851 census (post #11) Mary says she was born at Windle (St Helens) in about 1800/01. She says St Helens in 1861 and 1871. I have looked for baptisms for a Mary Markland (and variant spellings) from 1795-1805 but found nothing in the right area (you could check Lancs OPC to see if there were any gaps in the register though). Another reason you should investigate that 1838 birth certificate!

[Qwackers]

Thanks