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Old 05-11-14, 12:18
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Default Ellen Hilliard (OH's grandmother)

Name - "official" name and what they were known as

Ellen Hilliard

Date and place of birth

I have not tracked down her actual date and place of birth. These are the sources I have:-

1890 Marriage to Daniel H Nugent - certificate states “full”
1901 Ireland Census gives 1860 and County Longford
1911 E&W census gives 1871 and Dublin, Ireland (name given as Ellen Charles)
1918 Marriage to Harry Charles – certificate states age 49 – 1869/70
1925 Death Registration gives dob as 1869

Names of parents

1890 marriage certificate gives Richard Hilliard – Land Steward
1918 marriage certificate gives Richard Hilliard (deceased) – Butler

Mother – unknown

Details of each of her marriages

1890 - Marriage to Daniel H Nugent on 26 January 1890 at the Roman catholic Chapel of Monkstown in the Registrar's District of Kingsdown in the Union of Rathdown in the County of Dublin.

Daniel H Nugent, age “full”, bachelor, stone cutter of 35 Mulgrave Street. Father's name Patrick Nugent and occupation Builder.
Ellen Hillard, age “full”, spinster, servant of York Road. Father's name Richard Hilliard and occupation Land Steward.

Marriage witnessed by Michael Kavanagh and Bridget Lyons.

Children of marriage:- Frances Honoria Nugent (1891-1974); Thomas Frederick Nugent (1892-1953); Patrick Edward Nugent (1894-1967); Daniel Henry Gerrard Nugent (1899-1986); George Albert Nugent (1901-1967)

Daniel H Nugent died in Dublin in 1st Q 1901 in Dublin North Volume 2 Page 443

1918 – Marriage to Harry Charles on 14th May 1918 at the Registry Office, Camberwell, London
Harry Charles age 46, widower, labourer of 196 Crystal Palace Road, East Dulwich. Father George Richard Charles, occupation Gardener.
Ellen Nugent age 49, widow of 196 Crystal Palace Road, East Dulwich. Father Richard Hilliard (deceased) occupation Butler.

Marriage witnessed by A.N. Meredith and George Gooding.

No children from this marriage.

Occupation

Servant (1890 marriage certificate)
Housekeeper (Irish 1901 census)
Cook (E&W 1911 census)

Military service

None

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on, if applicable.

1890 – York Road, Dublin, Ireland
1901 – 47 (47.3) Summerhill, Mountjoy, Dublin, Ireland
1911 – Penshurst, Croham Park Avenue, South Croydon
1914 – Ecclesbourne Stables, Thornton Heath (address given as next of kin for son Thomas Frederick Nugent serving in Queen's (Royal West Surrey) Regiment. British Army WW1 Pension Records. Regimental number 1417)
1918 – 196 Crystal Palace Road, East Dulwich
1918 – 2 Temple Cottages, Broadstone, Dublin (address given as next of kin for POW son Daniel HG Nugent, East Yorks. ICRC Archives)
1921 – 196 Crystal Palace Road, East Dulwich, (London Electoral Rolls)
1922 – 196 Crystal Palace Road, East Dulwich (London Electoral Rolls)

1901 Irish census
1911 E&W census


Date, place and cause of death

4th Q 1925 Dublin South, Ireland Vol 2 Page 378. I don't have a copy of the certificate but understand she died of an asthma attack.

Date and place of burial / cremation.

Not known

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable

Not known

Memorial inscription - if any

Not known.
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Old 05-11-14, 14:01
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There is an Ellen Hilliard birth registered Dublin South 1873, but presumably she is the Ellen Hillyard baptised that year whose father was Charles Hillyard.

And there is an Ellen Hilliard born 5 Feb 1867 at High Street, Eastside, Killarney, Kerry, baptised Catholic, father Richard Hilliard, occupation not shown, mother Johanna McCarthy, sponsors Charles McCarthy and Johanna Glaveen. But this is nowhere near either of the places that your Ellen says she was born!
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There is an Ellen Hilliard birth registered Dublin South 1873, but presumably she is the Ellen Hillyard baptised that year whose father was Charles Hillyard.

And there is an Ellen Hilliard born 5 Feb 1867 at High Street, Eastside, Killarney, Kerry, baptised Catholic, father Richard Hilliard, occupation not shown, mother Johanna McCarthy, sponsors Charles McCarthy and Johanna Glaveen. But this is nowhere near either of the places that your Ellen says she was born!
Thank you kiterunner -- they've both been added to my list of possible sightings.

I wonder when the Irish Civil Records site will finally get itself sorted.
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