Daughter or niece?

[Kit]

On the 1901 census Mary Ann Newick is the daughter of George and Margaret.

On the 1911 census she is their niece.

I'm confused. I don't want to get the cert at the moment. is there any other way to find out which on she is?

I've checked the census though and it was not completed by either George or Margaret but by someone I don't know. It does have an X as George's mark.

On the 1881 census George and Margaret had a son John born abt 1880.

The 1911 census says that George and Margaret had only one child.

1881 census RG11/5332 folio 39 page 69

1901 RG13/2398 Folio 40 Page 8

[Merry]

She is recorded as daughter in 1891 as well as 1901.

[Merry]

In 1911 does it say they had one child who is living or one child who isn't living?

[Merry]

Is this their son?

Births Jun 1880
NEWICK John James Bridgend 11a 547


Deaths Dec 1883
Newick John James 4 Bridgend 11a 360

[Merry]

I see her birth reg is in the name Newick but George was from Somerset so unless more of his family moved to Wales it would seem likely she is theirs.

[Merry]

If the 1911 form said they had one living child then I guess that was mary Ann. Did they give a higher number or dec'd children?

There are these registrations in Bridgend as well as John James and Mary Ann:

Births Dec 1877
Newick Elizabeth Bridgend 11a 555

Deaths Mar 1879
Newick Elizabeth 1 Bridgend 11a 367


Births Jun 1882
Newick Frederick Bridgend 11a 599

Deaths Sep 1883
NEWICK Fredrick 1 Bridgend 11a 282

There are no other Newick entries other than these and George's marriage to Margaret Price in 1877 in Bridgend District.

[Margaret in Burton]

It's not the same Mary Ann in 1911. This one is only 9 years old.

In answer to your question Merry, it says one child born and still living.

Kit, if you want the 1911 image pm me your email addy.

[Merry]

Bother, I didn't think to check the 1911 details!

So this is the one on the 1911?

Births Mar 1902
Newick Mary Ann Pontypridd 11a 520

There's a Samuel Newick and wife and large family in Llanwonno (Pontyprid) in 1901. Mrs N is 27 years of age. Samuel is from Somerset and b abt 1862/63.

In 1871 George and Samuel are brothers here:

RG10; Piece: 2378; Folio: 8; Page: 7

so that's the relationship of Mary Ann sorted!!

[Kit]

Hello, sorry I've been away, asleep etc.

Wow Merry, you've done well. I haven't gotten around to looking at Samuel yet.

The son John you found was listed as their child on the 1881 census. I'm guessing the person who completed it didn't know of this child and as they can't read didn't know he wasn't mentioned.

So George and Margaret's Mary Ann is alive somewhere and they have Samuel's niece with them. (Note to self find Samuel on the 1911). I didn't even think about the age of the girl on the census vs the age of their child. SHouldn't post late at night.

Margaret thanks for the offer I bought a sub last week, hence all my 1911 related questions. lol

Thanks both of you for your help.

[Kit]

Arrrggh.

Just checked the census for Samuel and he has 8 children, which is good I only had 7. Checked the children on the census for middle names etc and the last one is Walter aged 4. Not so good I don't know about Walter, so Mary Ann doesn't fit. I'll have to keep going and see if George and Samuel have more brothers who are missing a child.