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Sarah Edwards
My OHs mother's mother's mother's mother
Name: Sarah Edwards Date and place of birth: 20th April 1818 Tylsen Street, Bethnal Green, London, England Names of parents: John Edwards and Mary ? Date and place of baptism: 31st May 1818 at St Matthew's Church, Bethnal Green, London, England Details of each of his or her marriages: Marriage to William Joseph Tyler on 27th January 1851 at St Bartholomew's Church, Bethnal Green, London, England (10 years after their first child was born) Occupation(s): Dress Maker Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK): Woverley Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1841 Census Class: HO107; Piece 691; Book: 6; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 11; Page: 14; Line: 18; GSU roll: 438807. 2 Hare Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1851 Census Class: HO107; Piece: 1542; Folio: 9; Page: 11; GSU roll: 174772. 3 Pelham Street, Stepney, London, England - 1861 Census Class: RG9; Piece: 268; Folio: 44; Page: 30; GSU roll: 542603. 1 Spital Court, Spitalfields, London, England - 1871 Census Class: RG10; Piece: 513; Folio: 5; Page: 3; GSU roll: 823381. 64 Fuller Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1881 Census Class: RG11; Piece: 425; Folio: 113; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341092. 64 Fuller Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1891 Census Class: RG12; Piece: 265; Folio 209; Page 43; GSU roll: 6095375. 48 Lessada Street, Bethnal Green, London, England - 1901 Census Class: RG13; Piece: 293; Folio: 159; Page: 30. Date, place and cause of death: 15 November 1903 at the Infirmary (assume it was the Bethnal Green Workhouse/Infirmary latterly Bethnal Green Hospital until it was closed in 1986) in Bethnal Green, London, England - cause of death senile decay Date and place of burial / cremation: Not known Details of will / administration of their estate: Not known Memorial inscription: Not known Last edited by maggie_4_7; 16-07-10 at 20:01. Reason: added 1861 census details, birth date, baptism, maiden surname, parents, date and cause of death and date of marriage |
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Best fit?
Deaths Dec 1903 Tyler Sarah 85 Bethnal Green 1c 133 and would this, below, give you her maiden name and help you find the family in 1861 (if the area isn't a missing one!!)? Births Mar 1861 Tyler Rachel Whitechapel 1c 378
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Here they are in 1861 at 3 Pelham St Stepney:
RG9; Piece: 268; Folio: 44; Page: 30 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?...c=&pid=5734079
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There's a marriage 27th Jan 1851 which I realise is 10 years too late, but is between William Joseph Tyler, broad silk weaver, and Sarah Edwards at St Barts, Bethnal Green. The witnesses are Henry Smith and Elizabeth Williams. Of the bride, groom and witnesses only Henry Smith signs his name. Unfortunately, the address given isn't where they were living on the 1851 census - for the marriage both give 18 Cudworth Street.
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On the marriage cert Sarah Edwards gives her father's details as John Edwards, Seaman.
There's a bap at St Matthew, Bethnal Green, 29th May 1818 for a girl named Sarah b 20th April 1818 the dau of John and Mary Edwards. John is a Mariner. Obviously everything above hangs on the 1861 birth cert!! lol
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oooh blimey thanks for the 1861 census I didn't find it but sometimes I do get distracted with other people and go off on a tangent if it's not easily found after a bit.
Rachel Tyler is my OH's great grandmother. I haven't got the birth cert yet because there were more pressing certs I needed i.e. my family but yes that's one way of finding her maiden name. So I suppose I'd better do that and I think I'll order it today!!! if I want to go back a bit further now on the Tylers and Sarah - got a bit stuck on that one. Well that marriage is likely I'll check it out a bit of a coincidence if it's not them. Not obvious who Henry Smith and Elizabeth Williams is at the moment. They don't appear to be professional witnesses from what I can see. Thanks for your help Merry. Edit to say I had assumed they married around 1840 because their first child Sarah was born 1941 - but in FH we shouldn't assume anything should we! and also that death looks likely for Sarah so I think I'll order that while I'm about it. Last edited by maggie_4_7; 11-07-10 at 00:10. |
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Sarah Mary Ann Emily Susanna Jane William John Henry John Rachel So I had just decided perhaps her mother's name was Mary Ann as William Joseph's was Sarah too and that's their first daughter's name. |
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You are lucky to find naming patterns in your London families. I've never found any in mine, except for the likelyhood of one or more child being named for a parent.
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On OH's side they seem to follow the normal pattern in a lot of the families. First son after paternal grandfather, first and second daughters and sons after Paternal grandmother and maternal grandparents unless of course they have too many daughters or sons and then they seem to name them after their siblings until the right sex comes along to start the pattern again.
Edit to say: so now you've found a likely baptism for Sarah I'll check the names Emily Susanna and Jane at St Matthew! Don't know where those names come from to be honest could be names of Sarah's siblings perhaps - probably a long shot. Last edited by maggie_4_7; 10-07-10 at 18:53. |
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Birth cert ordered
Thank you Merry it takes a clear mind sometimes I just get to distracted can't see the wood for the trees |
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