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Old 08-09-19, 11:13
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Now I am retired I am chasing up loose ends.

My great-aunt Florence Emily Williams is a bit of a mystery. I was told she'd married a chap called "Alf Sibley" and my mother was not aware of any children. I knew they had lived at 40 Bullen Street because I have letters with that address.

I couldn't find a marriage for Florence but I did find her and an Alfred Sibley on various electoral rolls.

Alfred Sibley married Violet Mabel Milton in Dec 1913 in Battersea.

I had assumed that Alfred was unable to get a divorce and he and Florence posed as a married couple for respectability.

Just went back to find her on 1939 register and with her is listed an "Edward Sebley". He was born 29 Jan 1914, a year after Alfred and Violet married.

I've now found his baptism Feb 1914 as Donald Edward Sebley - in Battersea - parent are listed as "Alfred John & Florence Emily Sebley of 40 Bullen Street.

I can only conclude that Alfred and Violet's marriage was doomed from the start. If Florence carried Edward to term he would have been conceived 4 months after the wedding!
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Old 08-09-19, 11:56
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But now I find I have Florence E Sebley on electoral rolls with Edward Sebley in Battersea at the same time as an Alfred Sibley & Florence E Sibley which I previously thought were my lot!

There are quite a lot of Alfred Sibley/Sebleys. I've found a death in 1939 of an Alfred (no John) which might mean Florence E Sebley is "widowed" on the electoral roll with her son and the other couple are unconnected.
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Old 08-09-19, 12:10
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Nell, do you know your Florence's exact date of birth? If so then does it match the Florence who you found on the 1939 Register?
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Yes, that's why I'm sure she's (Donald) Edward's mother. I have her birth date from her baptism register.
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And there is a birth reg Jan-Mar 1914 in Wandsworth, Edward Sebley, MMN Williams. Also listed under the surname Williams.
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There is an Alfred J Sebley death Jan-Mar 1929 Chelsea, age 50. Alfred John Sebley born Jan-Mar 1877 Chelsea. And an Alfred Sebley marriage in Chelsea Jul-Sep 1896 to either Ellen Barnes or Annie Scoltock.

Edit - going by subsequent birth regs, I think he married Ellen Barnes.
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And there is an Ellen Sebley death Oct-Dec 1960 Surrey Mid E age 84. Have to go and make dinner now.
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Thanks KiteRunner, I'll take a look at those now.
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There is a Violet Mabel Sibley death in Kensington so I think the Alfred of that original marriage isn't yours and the Alfred Sebley death in Kensington is her husband. I am assuming Sibley is a transcription error, anyone one with a sub to deceased online could check if there are images and addresses, I let mine lapse.

Or if it is him he might have been leading a double life and flitting between the two or he was just living with Florence in Battersea.

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...off=&ml_rpos=1


https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...off=&ml_rpos=1

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I am coming to that conclusion myself. Thanks for looking, Maggie!
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