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Old 23-02-22, 09:27
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Default Ann Barrass, born 1816 in Jamaica

From FMP I can see that Ann Barrass was born in 1816 at St James, Cornwall, Jamaica.

She went to England at some point and married Thomas Mole in 1841 in Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

The FMP record doesn't state her parents. Online trees has her father as John.
I've tried Family Search with no results.

Barrass is a common name in the North-East of England, so I assume her father was from there originally.

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Old 23-02-22, 09:30
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If all else fails there is the marriage certificate I could buy, but I'm trying to avoid that!

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Mole
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1841
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ Thomas Mole married one of these people Jane Ireland, Catherine Prudhoe, Mary Thewlis, Ann Barrass
District Newcastle upon Tyne
District number -
County Northumberland
Country England
Volume 25
Volume as transcribed 25
Page number 388
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
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FamilySearch also has her father transcribed as John Barrass but it says you would have to go to a FamilySearch Centre to view the marriage record. Ancestry has two transcriptions of a baptism record, one in Jamaica, Select Births and Baptisms, 1752-1920 and one in Caribbean, Select Births and Baptisms, 1590-1928: Ann Barras, baptised 29 Jun 1816 St James, Jamaica, FHL film number 1224328, item4 p55.
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Now I can find the baptism image on FamilySearch! I guess they don't consider Barras to be a variant of Barrass, because it didn't come up before.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...570&cc=1827268
Image number 571 if it doesn't take you there. Near the bottom of the right-hand page, Ann Barras white by law, born June 18, 1815. The page is headed Baptisms, and there is a column "Surnames of those born in wedlock" with that column being blank for Ann, implying that she was born out of wedlock.
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Thanks, Kate.
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Ann Barras and Thomas Mole had their first son John baptised in Newcastle-upon-Tyne in 1840 but didn't marry until 1841. I know it's the correct family as Thomas Mole was a plasterer and is named as such.
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Jamaican Family Search (not connected with FamilySearch) has a glossary which includes the following: Private Act: A white man who fathered non-white children could have a Private Act presented to the National Assembly. This Act would give them the same rights and privileges of British subjects, born of white parents, subject to certain restrictions, usually with respect to voting. These children would appear in the records as "white by law."
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Ann Barras and Thomas Mole had their first son John baptised in Newcastle-upon-Tyne in 1840 but didn't marry until 1841. I know it's the correct family as Thomas Mole was a plasterer and is named as such.
I had to smile that on the 1841 census it's Ann who is the plasterer!
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That's very interesting, Kate.
I've made a note of this. I feel compelled to buy the marriage certificate.
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The marriage certificate for Thomas Mole and Ann Barrass has arrived.

10th May 1841 at St John, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Both of full age and of this parish.
Thomas Mole was a plasterer, as I knew. Father John Mole, gardener, as thought.


Ann's father was John Barrass, Clerk. I wonder what type of clerk he was.
I'd love to discover more about him.

Random witnesses, as far as I can see.
Wm. Fridley?
Jno. Thompson
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