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Old 16-06-13, 08:16
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I am trying to work out what happened to Robert Charles Lucas Reay and his mother Marianne.
Robert was baptised 10 July 1839 Whitchurch Shropshire, son of Rev Charles Lucas Reay and Marianne (Draper on the baptism on Family search - middle name or surname?).

There are a number of online family trees that give the marriage of Rev Charles and Marianne as 17th May 1834 Wolvercote, they all have the same date, but her surname varies, Cook, Essex and Draper. I cannot find that marriage at all.

Charles Lucas Reay was vicar of Swanbourne Buckinghamshire 1838-1841 and left for New Zealand later that year. I cannot find them on the 1841 census and they should be there somewhere!

Rev Charles Reay died in New Zealand in 1848 and his wife and son returned to England, and then the son Robert came back here in the mid 1860s and married and died here.

Charles was born 1810 Oxford and he did his degree in Oxford, and was ordained there in 1834, so it fits that they married there. I have no idea what he may have been doing in Shropshire in 1839 though when the son was baptised, because he should have been in Swanbourne. He was curate in Lincolnshire from 1834-1838.

Can anyone see Robert and his mother in 1851 and 1861? And if you can find the marriage so I can get a maiden name that would be fantastic. I suspect that she may have been married before she married Charles which could explain some of the name mix up.
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Old 16-06-13, 11:55
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The trouble is, not many Oxfordshire parish registers are available online, Chris, so you might not find a marriage at Wolvercote online but you might have to have someone look it up at the record office or on a CD or something.

There is a tree on ancestry which has a Pallot's Marriage Index entry attached - Mary Ann Cook of All Saints Poplar married Jas Henderson Essex at St Dunstan's Stepney in 1824, by licence. So if this is Marianne then her surname was Cook before it was Essex. They are indexed as James Henderson Esser and Mary Anna Cock on the London Marriages and Banns on ancestry, so I will put in a correction. To be fair, it is a pretty poor quality image. Date 30 Dec 1824. Bachelor and spinster.
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Old 16-06-13, 12:11
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Looking at the 1841 census for Swanbourne, there is a Kennie Pugh, wife Harriet, clergyman there (clerk has been crossed out)

Googling produces that Rev K M Pugh married Harriet third daughter of the late WS Reay of Liverpool. So presumably he was holding the fort for his brother-in-law.
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Chris, what info do you have about Marianne and Robert returning to England and then Robert returning to NZ, please?
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Old 16-06-13, 12:56
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The will of Kenneth Mackenzie Pugh late of Liverpool who died 1865 was proved by Maria Reay spinster of Ellesmere, Shropshire
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Old 16-06-13, 13:01
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This is Kenneth with his second wife in 1861 - no Reays there then.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/87...2718_2721-0207
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Old 16-06-13, 13:03
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Google book snippet:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3...20Reay&f=false
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In 1851, Kenneth was in Bute - again no Reays there.
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Discussion of the Reay connection with Liverpool from Ancestry message boards:

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread....nd.lan.general
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Old 16-06-13, 13:17
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Charles Lucas Reay's mother Charlotte was still alive in 1841, with her daughters Maria and Charlotte in Ellesmere, but he wasn't with them. Nor was his widow with his sisters in 1851.
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