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Did Emma marry?
Flushed with success at finding details of the death and burial of my g-grandmother Emma Newman (nee Peel), I'm hoping to discover next if she ever married. I have posted about this before, but perhaps someone can spot some new records?
Here she is on TOGG: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ight=emma+peel And here's an associated thread about her son Daniel: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...=daniel+newman I think I've identified her son Daniel as Daniel Peel in the Ancestry school records (father's name is given as James). He leaves one school shortly before a Daniel Newman starts at another school - date of birth virtually the same. So, I'm guessing Daniel was illegitimate. But that doesn't explain why Emma apparently never married James Newman, and apparently never registered the births of several of her children. (just to confuse things there's a parallel James and Emma Newman in Bethnal Green at about the same time). |
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Here are the marriages I have found so far on Ancestry, but none of them seem right, unfortunately.
Name: James Newman Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Age: 23 Spouse Name: Emma Green Spouse Age: 17 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Apr 1880 Parish: Bethnal Green St Thomas Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Thomas Newman Spouse Father Name: Benjamin Green Register Type: Parish Register Name: James Newman Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Age: 26 Spouse Name: Emma Green Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 27 Jan 1884 Parish: Walworth All Saints Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Newman Spouse Father Name: Thomas Green Register Type: Parish Register Name: James Newman Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Age: 21 Spouse Name: Emma Witchalls Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Apr 1882 Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: John Newman Spouse Father Name: Charles Witchalls Register Type: Parish Register Name: James Newman Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Emma Parfitt Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 May 1881 Parish: Paddington All Saints Borough: Westminster Father Name: John Newman Spouse Father Name: John Parfitt Register Type: Parish Register Name: James Newman Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Emma Hawks Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Mar 1879 Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Charles Newman Spouse Father Name: John Hawks Register Type: Parish Register |
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Thanks for looking, Elizabeth. The father of Emma's 'husband' James Newman (born 1860) was definitely also James Newman, a carman - none of the marriages on Ancestry seem to fit, even if Emma's surname wasn't Peel (for whatever reason).
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Quote:
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I've just looked at all the censuses, so here they are, for reference!
1871 John Peel Head M 35 Dock Lab Midx Old Ford Clara Peel Wife M 34 Do Bethl Green Thos Do Son 12 Do Do Clara Do Daur 10 Do Do Emma Do Daur 6 Do Do John Do Son 3 Do Do Anne Do Daur 1 Do Do 1881 John Peel Head M 42 Hawker Bethnal Green Ellen " Wife M 41 " James Croft Stepson U 17 " John Peel Son 14 " David Croft Stepson 8 " William " " 5 " Albert " " 2 " Emma Peel Daur 17 Seamstress " Maria Croft Stepdaur U 14 Yorks Sheffield Rebecca " " 11 Bethnal Green 1891 18 Olga Street, Bethnal Green Newman James Head M 32 Carman Bethnal Green " Emma Wife M 26 " " Daniel Son 9 " " James Son 9 " " Charles Son 6 " " John Son 4 " " Louisa Dau 52 (?) " 1901 16 Digby Walk, Bethnal Green James Newman Head M 40 Manure Carman Bethnal Green Emma " Wife M 36 Matchbox Maker " Charles " Son S 16 " Joseph " Son 8 " Richard " Son 4 " Clara " Dau 2 " Thomas " Son 10 mo " 1911 45 Tagg Street, Bethnal Green Emma Newman Head 47 Widow no occupation 3 children, 3 living, 3 dead - the 3 in the first column looks to have been changed to a 6 - Bethnal Gr Richard Newman Son 14 Nil Do Thomas "do 11 School Do Robert " Do 8 Do |
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Tower Hamlets BMD seems to be broken.
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Daniel Son 9 "
James Son 9 " What do we know aboout these "twins"?
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Do we know who James Newman jnr is?
If James snr were previously married, he might not be in a position to marry Emma, even if he were the father of Daniel. (I have an ancestor playing chicken with two women at the same time)
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I can't find a marriage on FreeBMD or ancestry.
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snap!
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