What happened to Johanah and Mary Stilwell?

[ElizabethHerts]

The brother of my 3xgt grandfather was Abraham Stilwell born 1791 in Linchmere Sussex. His son Abraham Stilwell was christened on 5 October 1823 in Linchmere although his parents were living in Whitechapel.

Abraham was a blacksmith like his father.
In Dec qr 1849 he married Johanah Regan in Chelsea.
On the 1851 census Abraham, Johanah (born Ireland) and Mary, aged 9 months, are together in Chelsea:

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1472 Folio: 432 Page: 52

Civil Parish: Chelsea
Address: 13, Wilderness Row, Chelsea County: Middlesex

I finally found Abraham in 1871 - FMP had mistranscribed his surnamel.

RG number: RG10 Piece: 77 Folio: 65 Page: 33

Address:
Turk's Row, Chelsea County: London, Middlesex

However, he is with "wife" Mary and children Abraham (c. 1855) , Eliza (c. 1861) and James (c. 1863).

I have searched the death indexes, with no result. So what happened to Johanah and Mary?

[Merry]

I noticed there's a birth reg for Mary but there are none for the other three children. I imagined they were reg with their mother's name (if they were reg at all!) but having looked at children called Abraham reg in Cheslea district there are none to fit Abraham jr's age in 1871.

I wonder who this is?

Births Dec 1857
Stillwell Joanna Eliza Chelsea 1a 134

Maybe a dau born before the breakdown of the 1st marriage?

[ElizabethHerts]

Thanks, Merry. I am getting confused with them now.

I have found this for 1881:

RG number: RG11 Piece: 78 Folio: 3 Page: 7


Civil Parish: Chelsea
20, Caversham St, Chelsea County:
Middlesex

STILLWALL, Ann Head Widow F 52 1829 Laundress Ireland
STILLWELL, Eliza Daughter Single F 21 1860 Laundress Chelsea Middlesex
STILLWELL, Kate Daughter Single F 27 1854 Laundress Chelsea Middlesex
STILLWELL, Mary Daughter Married F 30 1851 Laundress Chelsea Middlesex
STILLWELL, Abraham Son Married M 25 1856 Labourer Chelsea Middlesex
STILLWELL, James Son Single M 19 1862 Seaman Chelsea Middlesex
MAYSE, Louisa Wife Married F 42 1839 Laundress Marylebone Middlesex
MAYSE, Charlotte Sophia Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar St Martins Middlesex

So is this Ann our Johannah??

[kiterunner]

I wonder whether Johana went back to Ireland?

(Sorry, posted at same time)

[Merry]

Oooh, is it Joanna?

I saw this in 1881 which is confusing, given you have an Abraham aged 25 in your 1881 census record....

14 Franklin Row, Chelsea

Abraham Stilwell head m 26 labourer Chelsea
Eliza Stilwell wife m 26 b Chelsea
James Stilwell son 1 b Chelsea

Confused?? lol

[kiterunner]

Looking at the image on ancestry, Louisa Mayse and Charlotte are in a different household from the Stillwells.

[Merry]

Oh and you have James as well but he is also on a RN ship in 1881! lol (Ord Seaman HMS Beacon)

So, is Mary also Joannna and Ann? (or the other way round?)

Have you looked for a death for Mrs S?

[kiterunner]

Abram Stillwell age 25 on the 1881 is married, but his wife doesn't seem to be there, so it is very likely the same person.

[kiterunner]

There's an Ann Stilwell death in Jul-Sep 1901 Chelsea, age 70.

[kiterunner]

In 1891 and 1901 Ann Stilwell is on her own in St George Hanover Square.