west riding

[Margaret in Burton]

Can't find them in 1861?

Any census refs?

[Margaret in Burton]

For reference 1841

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?...=&pid=12417960

[Margaret in Burton]

Found them in 1861

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?...=&pid=10394108

[bidston]

hi marg, i tried putting in both eliz and thomas details into freebmd and both times it came back june 1845, is it safe to assume to each other, arundale is a hell of long way off the spelling though

[Margaret in Burton]

No, it's not safe to assume anything. The only way you will know is to buy that cert. There are 4 couples with that same ref. Anyone of them could have married each other. Thomas Jones could have married one of the other women listed. It is a common name after all.

[bidston]

blimey, not easy is it

[Margaret in Burton]

Have you found any of the sisters in 1861? Isabella and Martha?

[Merry]

Originally Posted by bidston

the gap between elizabeth and isabella is only 5 years so i did not think it would be 2 marriages,

Well, obviously I can't say which ages are accurate, but in 1851 Elizabeth is 35 and Isabella is 25.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by bidston

in 1861 liz junior is down as washerwoman, no sign now of mum and sisters

Have you not got the 1871 census for Squire and his sister Martha? Isn't that Isabella living nextdoor (surname Haldon) with her (illegitimate) son Tom S Haldon?

[Merry]

I can't see a birth reg for Isabella's son, but this looks like his marriage:

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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Chapman Savina Kate Leeds 9b 829
DIXON Mary Hannah Leeds 9b 829
Haldon Tom Squire Leeds 9b 829
Richards Charles Frederick Leeds 9b 829


He is with his mum in 1881 with his middle name listed in full.