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Old 22-06-16, 16:30
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Default William Geer Allen Sr 1818-1880

I am looking for William Geer Allen's father. I am a direct decedent of his and working on my family tree. Thank you.
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Old 22-06-16, 16:33
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Can you give us a bit more information about William, please, so we can help? Such as where was he born, where did he die, who did he marry, etc?
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Old 22-06-16, 17:05
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B:1818, Laurens, Georgia, United States
Death:1880, Laurens, Georgia, United States
Married: 30 Aug 1851
Wife: Rachel Hester Drew Allen
Birth ABT 1825
Death 1900 • Laurens, Georgia, United States
I have all the kids names.
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Old 22-06-16, 18:34
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I can only find him listed as William G Allen on censuses, marriage records, etc so not found confirmation of his middle name yet. Unfortunately the marriage record doesn't give information about his parents.

There is a Huldah T Hester, age 64, with William and Rachel and family on the 1860 census, who I assumed was Rachel's mother, but from Googling around, I have found various old message board posts suggesting that she was William's mother, and that she was the Hulda Drew who married Stephen Hester in 1851. If so, then she is down as Huldah T Drew, in Laurens County, on the 1840 census.

This does seem to fit with this 1850 census entry for Laurens County (found the link from a public ancestry tree which has a lot of records etc attached):
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/80...47/edit/record
H T Drew 54 F
W G Allen 33 M Farmer
John S Drew 17 M
Georgina Drew 16 F
Rachael Drew 25 F
Susan Drew 6 F
Franklin Drew 5 M
Julian Drew 3 F
William Drew 1 M
S B Hester 66 M

Just wondering whether some of the surnames are incorrect? They are dittoed on the image. They seem to fit with the children who are down as Allen on the 1860 census? Of course it could be the 1860 census which is wrong. Are the older ones maybe Hulda's stepchildren, children of a Mr Drew who she was married to after the death of William's father? And is this the same Rachel as the Rachel who married William?
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There is a mistake in the census as far as I can tell, with the surnames Drew/Dean. There are 2 step kids that are Mr. Drew's. Hulda the mother of Rachel and yes it is the same Rachel that is married to William Allen. Its a bit confusing with the wrong names in the census. I have a weak lead who Williams father might be, but I don't have any hard proof to back it up with. Nazareth Allen B:780 North Carolina, D:20 SEPTEMBER 1880 Anson, North Carolina.
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I have a weak lead who Williams father might be, but I don't have any hard proof to back it up with. Nazareth Allen B:780 North Carolina, D:20 SEPTEMBER 1880 Anson, North Carolina.
There are quite a few ancestry trees with this information but none with any recorded sources, as far as I could see.
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On the 1860 census, the household before William G Allen's is John S Drew age 27, and the household before that one is John Allen, 70, farmer, Harriet 35 and Georgiann 12, so I wonder whether that Allen family is related to William.

On the 1830 census, in Laurens County, there is a John S Drew household which has 1 male age 10-15, 1 male age 40-50, 1 female age 5-10 and 1 female age 30-40. Likely to be Hulda's second husband, but it's not clear whether John and Hulda were married at this point (in which case the children could be William and Rachel).

Also in Laurens County on the 1830 census:
Nazareth Allen: 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 40-50, 1 female 40-50. The younger boy is the right age to be William but the woman too old to be Hulda unless she knocked some years off her age later (not impossible.)

Gillum Allen: 1 male under 5, 1 male 20-30, 1 female under 5, 1 female 15-20.

Bryan Allen: 2 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 2 males 20-30, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 40-50 (again, too old to be Hulda unless she knocked some years off her age later)

Eason Allen: 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 2 males 15-20, 3 males 20-30, 2 males 40-50, 1 female under 5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 40-50 (same applies.)

But now I need to check against the 1840 census as if any of these were still around then we can definitely rule them out.

Edit - sorry, all the above is working on the theory that Hulda was William's mother and Rachel's stepmother. If not then I will go back to square one!
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I can't get the 1840 census image to load at the moment but the transcribed figures for Huldah T Drew's household are: 1 male 5-10, 1 male 20-29, 1 male 50-59, 1 male 70-79, 2 females under 5, 1 female 20-29, 1 female 40-49.

Bryan, Eason and Gillam Allen are all still around in 1840, or at least household heads of those names are.
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There is a head of household transcribed as "Frank Allen" on the 1820 census but I'm not sure whether that is what it says:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/77...nSearchResults

What we really need are some baptism and marriage records (pre-1851) from Laurens County! I wonder whether any exist.
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There is a John S Drew marriage to a Peggy McMurty 14 Feb 1803 at Oglethorpe, Georgia - not in Laurens County, but not far from it. But of course, what I want to find is John S Drew's marriage to Hulda to see what her surname was before she married him!
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