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Yes - he says he only speaks English in the 1911 census yet my alternative Rees family speak Welsh.
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Ah, so he is. Occupation Colliery Shot(?) Man. Their son Thomas isn't at home so they're not definitely ruled out.
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I have read that sometimes the form was filled in by someone else but signed (or supposedly signed) by the householder as though they had filled it in. But yes, it does seem strange if it is the same Thomas.
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I couldn't get anywhere with this one:
Deaths Mar 1899 Rees Alfred 47 Pontypridd 11a 280 Have you looked at this man at all? 1891 census: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan Alfred Rees boarder married 38 Coal Miner b Tuelebert, Pembrokeshire Partly because my knowledge of Welsh geography is virtually non-existent!!
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8 Trebawnog Rd, Llantrisant, Glamorgan Janet Hopkins Head W 43 Glamorganshire ... Morgan L Porter Boarder M 33 Coal Haulier Breckonshire Martha J Do Daur (sic) M 26(?) Glamorganshire Eliza J Do Daur S 3 Do And there is a birth reg Jul-Sep 1887 Pontypridd (also linked to from that ancestry tree.) Did she really look 19 when she got married?! |
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That's odd - I just looked again at 3 and 4 Morgan Terrace, Cymmer and whilst 4 has a Rees family, number 3 has Lemuel Llewelyn and family and a lodger, Job Salter and family, so I must have gone wrong.
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...1%2f0030801800
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The Lewises are listed at 3 Morgan Street. |
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Dyffryn Lodge, St Nicholas, Pembrokeshire Phebe Rees Wife M 38 Pembrok Mathry Sarah Anne Do Daur 15 Scholar Do Llanhedryn Margaret Anna Do Daur 12 Do Do St Nicholas Dinah Maria Do Daur 10 Do Do St Nicholas In 1881 their head of household is Alfred Rees 28 born Pembrokeshire Letterston, although he is an ag lab then. Wikipedia says that the Welsh name for Letterston is Treletert. |
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In 1901 Phebe is a widow. And she has a son Thomas! But he is 9, so I don't think he could have passed for 21 a few months later to get married! (Also he is born at Pembrokeshire St Nicholas.)
But it does look likely that the 1899 Alfred Rees death is her husband. |
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So, could it be that Alfred and Phebe split up soon after the 1881 census and Alfred went off to Glamorgan and had a son Thomas by another woman, or got together with another woman who already had a son Thomas, and Thomas took his surname?
Except that he doesn't have a family with him in 1891. I suppose you could get the 1899 death cert to see whether it helps at all. |
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