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Thomas Rees of Penygraig (1911)
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Thomas Rees Date and place of birth About 1883, Cardiff (source 1911 census) Names of parents Alfred Rees (source marriage certificate) Date and place of baptism - if applicable Unknown Details of each of his or her marriages - if any Married Elizabeth Jane Lewis on 31st December 1901 at the Registry Office in Pontypridd. His age is given as 21 years (dob 1880) occupation is recorded as Collier. His father's name is Alfred Rees (deceased) - occupation - Coal Trimmer. Address for bride and groom is recorded as 3 Morgan Street, Cymmer (Her mother's residence). Her age is given as 19 years (dob 1882), no profession and father recorded as Morgan Lewis, collier. (Notes: Her dob on both the 1901 and 1911 census is 1886/87. Her Father's name in full is Morgan Lewis Porter) Witnesses were – Sarah Ann Owens and Robert Johnson. Occupation(s) - if any Collier Military service - if any Unknown Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on. 3 Morgan Street, Cymmer (marriage certificate 1901) 27 Penygraig Road, Penygraig, Rhondda (1911 census) 1891 census – not found 1901 census – not found Date, place and cause of death Unknown Date and place of burial / cremation. Unknown Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable Unknown Memorial inscription - if any Unknown Updated to rectify mistake in address - 3 Morgan STREET (not Terrace) shown on marriage certificate Last edited by Sirenoftitan; 04-11-14 at 13:18. |
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Looking at death registrations for men named Albert Rees between 1882 and 1901 there's only one in Wales who is old enough (of course it might not be the right one!):
Deaths Mar 1899 Rees Alfred 47 Pontypridd 11a 280 Have you looked at this man at all? 1891 census: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan Alfred Rees boarder married 38 Coal Miner b Tuelebert, Pembrokeshire Though married, he's not with his wife or any children.
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3 Morgan Terrace, Cymmer
Given that's Elizabeth's parents address, I expect you've seen the Rees family living next door? Just a red herring?
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Living next door in which census, Merry?
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There is this family on the 1881 census if Thomas was a bit older than he let on (edit - just noticed in rereading that he is 21 on his marriage cert so this would fit anyway):
10 Ynyscynon St, Citenpennan(?), Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan Alfred Rees Head Mar 31 Coal Miner Neath Abbey, Glamorgans Mary Rees Wife Mar 28 St Isals Pembrokesh Sarah J Rees Daur 9 Scholar Cwmbach Glamorgans John Do Son 8 Scholar Cwmbach Do Becca A Do Daur 4 Scholar Cwmbach Do Margret M Do Daur 1 Cwmbach Do Thomas W Do Son 1 Mo Cwmbach Do |
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However, I'm still struck by the fact that in the 1911 census which appears to have been filled in by him, Thomas gives his birthplace as Cardiff. Why would he put Cardiff and not Merthyr? It puzzles me. |
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I have read that sometimes the form was filled in by someone else but signed (or supposedly signed) by the householder as though they had filled it in. But yes, it does seem strange if it is the same Thomas.
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I couldn't get anywhere with this one:
Deaths Mar 1899 Rees Alfred 47 Pontypridd 11a 280 Have you looked at this man at all? 1891 census: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan Alfred Rees boarder married 38 Coal Miner b Tuelebert, Pembrokeshire Partly because my knowledge of Welsh geography is virtually non-existent!!
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Dyffryn Lodge, St Nicholas, Pembrokeshire Phebe Rees Wife M 38 Pembrok Mathry Sarah Anne Do Daur 15 Scholar Do Llanhedryn Margaret Anna Do Daur 12 Do Do St Nicholas Dinah Maria Do Daur 10 Do Do St Nicholas In 1881 their head of household is Alfred Rees 28 born Pembrokeshire Letterston, although he is an ag lab then. Wikipedia says that the Welsh name for Letterston is Treletert. |
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