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[BlueCrane]

Goodness what a lot of work you have all done. Many thanks.
Kite runner, if the information on Maggie's marriage certificate is correct, her father died before her marriage in 1907.
Phoenix, Eberhart, despite his name, was English, born in London. The problem was that his surname was often spelt incorrectly (Fimple, Fimbel, Fimble). In 1939 he and Maggie must have been living in London, (Herne Hill, Hollingbourne Road I think). The idea that she was a Catholic is a distinct possibility and had occurred to me. Do you think the RC churches in Hull could still have such old registers? If so how could I find them?
Merry, the Dob is spot on.

[Merry]

She might easily have been told William Daniel Cressey was dec'd if he was no longer on the scene.

The chap Kate found seems to have been a carpenter as I've found him as a witness in a court case reported in Leeds Mercury 20 July 1876 (so just after that wedding date Kate posted). The article about the case is very long, but the events took place in Hull and WDC was employed as a carpenter by a Mr Scarr. WDC's evidence is all about the woodwork on this dodgy ship, so his occ seems spot on! The ship was called Derwent and it sailed 31 July 1875 in an unseaworthy state.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Merry

For what it's worth, her date of birth on the 1939 Register is 14 Feb 1876.

Sorry I should have posted the rest of this:

58 Hollingbourne Road, Camberwell. His dob is 23 Dec 1875 and they are both recorded as Theatre Managers. No one else in the household.

[Phoenix]

William Daniel seems to be a thoroughly dodgy character, with a succession of "housekeepers" on censuses. In 1901, his wife is called Elizabeth.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

William Daniel seems to be a thoroughly dodgy character, with a succession of "housekeepers" on censuses. In 1901, his wife is called Elizabeth.

Did you see any children with him over the years, Phoenix?

[Merry]

In 1891 he has a housekeeper called Susanna Clinton b 1860 Hull, a daughter Elizabeth Cressey aged 12 and son Peter Cressey aged 5. No wife in the house and I can't find Susanna in 1881 at the moment.

Here's the birth regs for the children:

CRESSEY, ELIZABETH mmn CAMPBELL
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 695

CRESSEY, PETER mmn CAMPBELL
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 214

So, the mother of the children would appear to be Kate Campbell who he married in 1876. In 1901 his wife is Elizabeth aged 36 from Derbyshire.

I can't see WDC in 1911 at the moment.

[Phoenix]

Oh yes.

Now, I can't find him in 1881, but I note that on 1861 he has a sister Margaret Ann b 1850. Their mother, Emma marries James Dunlop in 1858 and I note that Emma and James Dunlop have a son James:

DUNLOP, JAMES CRESSEY
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 188

This is the link to Margaret senior's marriage in 1877:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F201837953%2F2


where she describes her father as William Cressey sailor, deceased

[Phoenix]

Here he is in 1911:


https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...677%2F0255%2F1

He's a widowed shipwright, aged 56 and has a son William aged 5 with him. And a Mrs (or Miss) Porte housekeeper also a widow with her two sons.

[Phoenix]

Here is the marriage of William's parents:

Marriages Dec 1851
Batty Emma Hull 22 409

CRESSEY William Hull 22 409

He was legitimate, sister Margaret wasn't.

[Merry]

Oh, in 1911 he is a shipwright and a widower, aged 56 (listed as W D Cressey). He has a housekeeper called Mrs Porte and it looks likely two of her adult children living with them. Also, though there is son William Cressey aged 5 born Hull.

This could be the marriage of WDC to Elizabeth who he is married to on the 1901 census:

Marriages Jun 1900
Cressey William Sculcoates 9d 405
Retalliek Elizabeth Ellen Sculcoates 9d 405

I can't match that surname to a birth reg or previous marriage and then a birth reg, to fit the 'b 1865 in Derbyshire' which is what shows on the census for WDC's wife in 1901, so it may not be the right marriage. That surname seems to originate in the West Country and is usually spelled Retallack or Retalleck.

This is probably the death of your Wililliam's partner though:

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
Cressey Elizabeth 37 Sculcoates 9d 118

So, she can't be the mother of William b 1906ish. I can't see a birth reg for him.