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Who is Mrs Sarah Gildart?
Here's my next minor conundrum!
Francis Gildart's first wife was called Mary. No children, or no surviving children. She died in 1768 and was buried at St Mary's Hampton (Richmond-upon-Thames), Middlesex 4 Sept 1768. (I'm not entirely sure who Mary was either, but at last there are some possible marriages, though any in the Liverpool area probably cousins of this Francis Gildart) So, after Sept 1768 Francis Gildart married a Sarah. She outlived him and is mentioned in his will dated 28 Dec 1784. In Francis's will he states if he dies at Tilbury in Essex he wants to be buried at Shadwell, Essex (presume he means Chadwell, as Shadwell is in Middlesex). If he dies anywhere else then he wants to be buried in the churchyard at Hampton, Middlesex (where his first wife was buried - though he doesn't mention that). Francis died in Jan 1785 and was buried at Chadwell, Essex 16 Jan 1785. Presumably he died at Tilbury as this was only a short time after his will was signed. His widow, Sarah, died in late 1794. In her will (signed 5 Sept 1794) she describes herself as of Leicester St, St Ann's, Westminster. She asks that she be buried near her late husband, but says that would be at "the burial ground at Hampton in Middlesex". She is duly buried at Hampton 2 Dec 1794. So, was the burial thing just a mistake - did she forget where Francis was buried, or did she have two husband's and forgot to mention it was an earlier husband who was buried at Hampton? I keep thinking it's not a big deal, but then it keeps bugging me! Plus who is she anyway? I can't see any marriage to fit this couple.
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Forgot to say, in Sarah's will she leaves stuff to numerous relations. I suppose it should be possible to work out who she is from that!!
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These are the people mentioned:
William Burgess of Oxford Street, St Marylebone, Middlesex, Gentleman my niece Mary Jollands now resident in Leicester Street my nephew John Spencer of Compton Street, St Ann Westminster, tailor Elizabeth Piper of Great Portland Street, St Marylebone my niece Elizabeth Chidley of Crown Street, St Ann Westminster John Marshall of Ogle Court, St Marylebone, tailor Charlotte Chidley, daughter of the aforementioned Elizabeth |
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Charlotte Chidley was baptised in 1778, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth.
Joseph Chidley married Elizabeth Spencer 2 Oct 1769 Hampton, Middlesex. |
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Here's the marriage entry for Joseph and Elizabeth: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults Not sure the witnesses are any help
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Thank you Elizabeth.
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I wonder if this is Elizabeth's baptism? Sunbury on Thames is 2 miles from Hampton. Elizabeth Spencer Baptism 25 Dec 1744 St Mary, Sunbury on Thames, Richmond upon Thames, Middlesex Henry and Rebecca She had two brothers bap the same place - Francis 1740 and Henry 1742. <<<<< no Francis or Henry in Sarah Gildart's will though. Henry Spencer married Rebecca Self 8 Mar 1738 at the Collegiate Church of St Katherine by the Tower, City of London. This is definitely the right couple as their marriage allegation, dated 8 Mar 1738 gives Henry's details as "Henry Spencer of Hampton, County of Middlesex, wheelwright, a bachelor aged 23 years". Rebecca is "of Teddington in the same county, spinster aged 23 years". So, they were both born about 1715. This is probably Rebecca: Rebecca Self Baptism Jan 1714 St Giles in the Fields, Holborn, Camden. Samuel and Hannah I couldn't make her have a sister called Sarah, so maybe Henry Spencer's sister? It has been estimated from army records that Francis Gildart who Sarah married, was born about 1820. I had imagined Sarah to be younger than him, though if she had a sibling born 1715 then she may not have been as young as I had expected, and she might well have been married previously. None of this is helping!!
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There is a PCC will of Thomas Spencer, butcher, of Hampton, proved in 1765, which mentions his sons Robert and Edward and daughters Mary Ann Elizabeth and Salley (I don't know whether there was one called Mary Ann or two called Mary and Ann due to lack of punctuation!)
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Oooh, thanks for listing them Kate. That was my next job.
I wonder if Salley and Sarah are the same person? - Perhaps not the person I'm looking for, but maybe a family where the alternative name Sally is used for Sarah?
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