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Old 19-12-20, 14:15
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On the 1939 census it shows her birth date as 11/2/1893
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Old 19-12-20, 14:24
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It might be helpful if you were to give us all the details from the marriage certificate.

As you aren't sure if the 1901 census if for the correct family, we need to know the correct information from the one reliable source you have.
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Old 19-12-20, 15:06
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But Bev did find the baptism which looks to be the correct one, in Feb 1889. And that does tie in with other baps that match the family on the census (post #15).
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Old 19-12-20, 15:11
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It might be helpful if you were to give us all the details from the marriage certificate.

As you aren't sure if the 1901 census if for the correct family, we need to know the correct information from the one reliable source you have.
Ok I have in Front of me

Married 3rd October 1914 St Patricks Church Leeds. Mary Catherine Kelly age 22 Spinster, 55 High Street Leeds Father John Kelly deceased baker. witnesses Fred Hardy Mary Lizzie Coates.
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But Bev did find the baptism which looks to be the correct one, in Feb 1889. And that does tie in with other baps that match the family on the census (post #15).
If the birth date on the marriage cert is the correct one then that means possibly I have the wrong 1901 census family
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John Kelley on the 1901 census was a labourer in a distillery, which doesn't match with the father's occupation of baker on the marriage cert. I don't know whether the baptisms that Bev found show father's occupation? Off to check...
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Old 19-12-20, 15:30
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Yes, it is details such as the father's occupation that could help.
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Old 19-12-20, 15:37
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Amongst the various addresses on Albert's war record, there is Mrs Feggans 26 John Street, Ayr, Scotland. As Albert appears to be English, would Mrs Feggans be a relation of Mary's?
This is after Mary has married Albert Cooper, so might provide a clue to Mary's family. Do we know what happened to Mary's siblings?
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Old 19-12-20, 15:42
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For what it's worth.......it is not unknown for the bride to fiddle with her birth date if she happened to be older than the groom. I have several instances on my own tree. It would be quite likely to retain the date/month and alter the year.
Not saying your Mary Catherine actually did this, but I know for a fact my own Irish grandmother was a bit casual about her dates.


If I remember correctly, I think the John Kelly I unearthed was a labourer....I don't think occupation was entered on the Dublin baptismal records, only on his marriage cert.


I think the family I found corresponds with the one cited on the 1901 census -but whether it is your Mary Catherine's family, I cannot say. More detail required about siblings, I think.
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Old 19-12-20, 15:42
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I can't find birth certificates for any of the children Bev found baptisms for. I was hoping the father might have been a baker in Ireland even if he wasn't in Liverpool!

*waits for Kate's return from the baptism records*
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