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Old 05-09-20, 18:45
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Of other Alfreds, Hardy and Smees are dead before 1911.
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Old 05-09-20, 19:27
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Ooh, what about this one, though in 1901:

Alfred G Willis Head Married Male 38 1863 General Blacksmith Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Emily Willis Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Alfred W C Willis Son Single Male 18 1883 Ship Fitter Apprentice Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Hilda M Willis Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
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Old 05-09-20, 20:05
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And in 1891:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...rce&pId=492529

In Glamorganshire, calling himself a coal miner.
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Old 05-09-20, 20:10
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By 1911, Emily is calling herself a widow:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...e&pId=42315855


And the family do not move from Portsmouth, but a tree on Ancestry gives Alfred Willis as dying in Medway in 1909 - because, presumably, the age is right.
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Old 05-09-20, 20:21
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Note that Alfred Couzens (sic) was in what looks like a workhouse infirmary, as a patient in 1939 and described as a blacksmith:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...1f&pId=2844082
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Old 05-09-20, 20:24
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I've been in Portsmouth all day, but did't get any vibes about this whilst there!

I will have to read your posts again to take it all in!

I did look at all the deaths of people called Alfred George who died between 1931 and 1939 in Portsmouth, Portsea or the district for Petersfield (forgotten now) of about the right age and eliminated all those who had a probate entry. It didn't help much and the Alfred G Couzens who died in 1944 doesn't seem to have been born with that name.
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Old 05-09-20, 20:32
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By 1908, Emily is on the electoral roll for 78 Agincourt Road - a bit premature if Alfred had not left her.
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Old 05-09-20, 20:35
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I've been in Portsmouth all day, but did't get any vibes about this whilst there!
Lol. I only get "what I should be doing" vibes while I'm in Portsmouth, and since most of the area has disappeared under flats, half the roads have disappeared too.
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Old 05-09-20, 20:49
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OMG

I have just noted an address, and realise that (if I'm right about Alfred George) Grandma at least would have known all about this.
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Old 05-09-20, 23:18
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Alfred G Couzens, in the infirmary in 1939, has dob 28 Nov 1863. (matched by his death reg aged 80 in Q1 1944)

Alfred G Willis was reg for birth in Q1 1863 Portsea district.

However, there are Ancestry trees that give his (AGW's) dob (and they don't know what happened to him). They say born 28 Nov 1862. Quite a coincidence!
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