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Old 02-03-17, 10:42
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Oooh, I looked at that one yesterday (how did I find it on Ancestry??!)
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Aha, but I've just found this, thanks to FamilySearch as it was mistranscribed on ancestry:
Baptism at Stepney 31 Mar 1672, John sonne of John Cooper of Ratcliff, merchant, & Barbara.

Off to have another look for John and Barbara's marriage...
I've just realised it was this one was looking at, not John:

James Cooper
Christening
19 Aug 1666
St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Middlesex
John,
Barbara
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and the reason I didn't post was because John was a mariner and I didn't think that worked with merchant.
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Barbara/y seems to have died at the right timeframe to fit.

Barbary
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26 Mar 1674-1675
St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Middlesex
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The entry says Cooper and he was a tobacconist this time!
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and the reason I didn't post was because John was a mariner and I didn't think that worked with merchant.
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Barbara/y seems to have died at the right timeframe to fit.

Barbary
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26 Mar 1674-1675
St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Middlesex
John

The entry says Cooper and he was a tobacconist this time!
Yes, I've just been looking at that too. Thanks!
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I'm just reading "The Letters of William Fitzhugh" in the Virginia Historical Magazine, which I found by Googling. He wrote several letters to John Cooper, merchant of London, in 1681 and 1682 saying he was sending him first 8, then 11, then 18, hogsheads of tobacco, and asking him to buy some furniture, bedding etc on his behalf and ship it over to him. So I now understand better what "tobacconist" meant - I was thinking of him running a small shop! Importing tobacco does fit better with the amounts of money etc left in his will. There is one letter where William Fitzhugh says he wants to start exchanging news with John Cooper, so I hope the replies are available somewhere!

Edit - not found any information about whether letters to William Fitzhugh have been kept, but I did find some interesting information about John Cooper in one of Fitzhugh's letters to a third party: "Upon the (Royal) Exchange in the Virginia Walk
you'll meet Mr. John Cooper a Virginian Mercht who will take care in conveying your and their letters to me".
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Oooh, that's good. Also fits with him being recorded as a mariner - not sailing a ship, but owning one perhaps and importing goods in it?
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I thought mariner could be a mistake - maybe it was originally written down as "mart" short for "marchant" and misread as "marr" short for mariner when they were copying it out? But your explanation could be right.
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Your explanation is at least as plausible.
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I've found this information in "New World Immigrants, Vol I" on ancestry, which now looks as though it must be connected to my John Cooper (his will mentions Mary, the widow of his brother Benjamin Cooper):

Some Early Emigrants to America
(indentures from 1683 and 1684)
(a) Type of printed form and information about the apprentice: Hand-written form, number 452, Benjamin Cooper the son of John Cooper of the parish of St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey, occupation victualer; no age stated; signs or marks - signs
(b) Name, address and occupation of the person to whom the apprentice was bound: William Cooper of the parish of Stebunheath alias Stepney, merchant
(c) Place where the apprentice was going - Virginia, bound for 4 years
(d) Date the Indenture was signed and names of witnesses: 17 Sep 1683, John Cooper (the father), Thomas Elwood. Magistrates: W Smyth and Ro Hastings.

I think the "victualer" bit is Benjamin's occupation rather than John's.
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