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Old 11-02-11, 08:22
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Default Mary Andrew c. 1788 - 1871 (OH's MFFMM)

OH's mother's father's father's mother's mother

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Mary Andrew

Date and place of birth
about 1788
Roughtown, Saddleworth


Names of parents
William Andrew - name from the will of William Newton, Mary's husband and Betty (Hawkyard):


"...all my share estate and interest of and in all those chief or ground rents arising and payable from land and buildings situate at or near Roughtown and Andrew Mill aforesaid belonging to my late father in law William Andrew or which may hereafter arise or become payable to me from the said property late belonging to the said William Andrew and all other my share estate and interest of and in the property late belonging to my father in law William Andrew situate at or near Roughtown and Andrew Mill aforesaid and also all that mortgage debt or sum of three hundred pounds lent by me on security of the said property of the said William Andrew at Roughtown and Andrew Mill aforesaid..."

Date and place of baptism
2 November 1788 St George, Mossley

Details of each of his or her marriages
to William Newton
1 October 1808
Manchester Cathedral


Children
1. Sarah c. 1809 Staley Wood/Mill Brook
2. Jane b. 17 Feb 1812 chr 2 Apr 1845 Mossley New onnection
3. Hannah chr 19 Nov 1815
4. Elizabeth (Betty) chr 25 May 1817
5. Mary Ann chr 14 Jun 1818
6. John chr 25 Jun 1820 St Michael Ashton under Lyne
7. Harriet chr 16 Feb 1823
8. Catherine chr 22 May 1825
9. James 1827
10. Anne chr 22 May 1828
11. Joseph c. 1831


Occupation(s) - if any
none given

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
1841 Census
Class: HO107; Piece 102; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Mottram in Longden Dale; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Line: 22;
New Buildings Stayley
William Newton 50 Shopkeeper & ? (illegible) Yes
Mary 50 Yes
Harriet 18 Yes
Catherine 16 Yes
James 14 School boy Yes
Joseph 10 School boy Yes

1851 Census
Class: HO107; Piece: 2239; Folio: 448; Page: 23
New Buildings Stayley
William Newton Head Married 63 Shopkeeper Grocer Yorks Saddleworth
Mary Wife Married 62 Yorks Saddleworth
Catherine Daur U 25 Cheshire Lancs?
Jane Bayley Grand daur 8 Scholar Cheshire Lancs?

1861 Census
Class: RG9; Piece: 3006; Folio: 32; Page: 16;
New Buildings Stayley
William Newton Head Mar 73 Proprietor of Houses Lydgate Yorkshire
Mary Wife Wife 72 Roughtown Yorkshire
Jane Grand daur 18 House maid Staly Cheshire

1871 Census
Class: RG10; Piece: 4086; Folio: 39; Page: 29
Wakefield Road Stalybridge
John Haigh Head Married 52? No occupation Mapley Lancashire
Catherine Wife Married 46 Staly bridge Lancashire
Herbert Son Unmarried 19 C Presser Staly bridge Lancashire
Mary Ann Daur 16 C Winder Staly bridge Lancashire
James Son 13 C Knotter Staly bridge Lancashire
Elizabeth Daur 11 Scholar Staly bridge Lancashire
Harriet Daur 8 Scholar Staly bridge Lancashire
John Son 6 Scholar Staly bridge Lancashire
Mary Mother in law Widow 82 Roughtown Saddleworth W. Yorks


Date, place and cause of death
19th July 1871 at Wakefield Road Stalybridge
aged 82 years Widow of William Newton Farmer
Cause of death: Exhaustion Long time Certified
Informant: Catherine Haigh Present at the death Wakefield Road Stalybridge


Date and place of burial
St George, Mossley

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
unknown - unlikely
Her husband William Newton left a very detailed will


Memorial inscription
Here Resteth
William Newton who departed this life July 16th 1861 in the 75th year of his age
Also Mary his wife who departed this life 19th July 1871 in the 83rd year of her age
Also Mary Ann their daughter and wife of Neddy Shelmerdine who departed this life
January 28th 1844 in the 26th year of her age

Register of Graves: William Newton. Staley.

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I don't know whether you already have this, but Lancashire Will Search has an entry for a William Andrew of Upper Mill in Saddleworth, weaver, 23 Jun 1813.
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Oh, and there's a possible baptism for her on FamilySearch - Mary Andrew baptised 2 Nov 1788 Mossley, Lancashire, parents William and Betty.
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Kate, I have bought several wills for people in OH's tree in this district, most of them red herrings! I'll go and check to see if I have this one.

I've also got that baptism and I have tentatively got her mother as Betty Hawkyard:

Possible marriage:
Groom's Name: William Andrew
Bride's Name: Betty Hawkyard
Marriage Date: 1787
Marriage Place: Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England

The problem is, in this part of the world, there seem to be so many Andrews and Newtons and all the other surnames in OH's tree. It's also complicated by the fact that you don't know whether to look in Yorkshire (Saddleworth), Lancashre (Staley) or Cheshire (Ashton under Lyne)!

Perhaps the will will shed some light!

Many thanks for your help. At least someone else is coming up with the same results!
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