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Aha! Thank you, everyone. Lots of very interesting leads. Now, where to start? I'll be back!
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The signature for George Spence when he married Elizabeth Wilson in 1872 looks a lot like the witness signature for a George Spence at the marriage of 28-year-old Elizabeth Spence to John Boynton in 1871 (her father is recorded as William Spence, labourer).
compare...... http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=22135357 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=44288603 Of course it may not be the same person, but a possibility?
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Oh yes, they do look very similar!
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Mrs Boynton was 38 b York in 1881.
I can see her as a servant in 1871 and 1861 (b 1842/3 York), but I can't see her in 1851!! She isn't the daughter of the family Kate posted earlier as I saw her separately in 1861 (and they are not the same age, despite the same birthplace)
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Hmmmm.... two to choose from:
1843 Q4 SPENCE Elizabeth Bootham York BOO/5/35 1844 Q1 SPENCE Elizabeth Bootham York BOO/5/51 No luck with a baptism at the moment.
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Hmmm......there is this Elizabeth who would appear to be illegitimate:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=10890432 But there were two births, so she might be the 'other' Elizabeth.
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I see that Bootham is a neighborhood of York. By Google's reckoning, Bootham Street is about a 15-minute walk from Queen Street where there is a George Spence age 12 in 1851 with the family of William Spence. Or could Queen Street actually be included in what is considered Bootham? The William Spence on Queen Street in the 1851 says he is born Linton-on-Ouse; and Helen Spence, the mother of a possibly illegitimate Elizabeth in the link Merry just gave us, is also born Linton-on-Ouse (mistranscribed by Ancestry as Linton-on-Crise or some such). I'm afraid I'm not following you, Merry, about her not being the daughter of the family Kate posted. You mean the one in post #7? Oh, I think I'm getting it. You see two Elizabeth Spences in 1861; one is still with that same family and the other one is elsewhere? |
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William Spence Head Mar 47 Labourer Yorks Linton on Ouse Elizabeth Do Wife Mar 48 Do Warthill Jesse Do Son U 19 Labourer York William Do Son U 14 Scholar York Elizabeth Do Daur 13 Scholar York and the other is a servant somewhere, b 1843/4 which is the right age for the 1871 bride. (sorry, didn't take notes, but she was easy to find!) Could Ellen/Helen (b 1816) be the sister of the William above and George be the son of the William above? Then Elizabeth uses the name Wm for her father when she marries because she doesn't want to appear illegitimate? I can force them to fit!!
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Ah,....
LINTON ON OUSE, in the parish of Newton upon Ouse, and wapentake of Bulmer; 1 mile WNW. of Newton upon Ouse, 7 miles S. of Easingwold. Here is a Roman Catholic chapel, and a school with a small endowment. Population, 268
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Name: William Spence
Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Apr 1805 Baptism/Christening Place: NEWTON UPON OUSE,YORK,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: William Spence Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Can't find Ellen though.
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