Finding the death of Wm Hallowell in Liverpool area

[xkopite]

I have tried to find the death of William Hallowell for a long time now, it may be lost for ever.
William was born about 1793 in Yorkshire according to the Liverpool 1851 census.
In the 1841 census he was living at Upper Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park with his wife Elizabeth, 2 sons and a daughter.
William was aged 45 occupation as a coachman.
By the 1851 census the family are now living at 1 court 6 house Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park.
Williams age is 58 occupation as a carter, with his wife, 2 sons and daughter.
According to the 1861 census Elizabeth Halliwell is listed as head, with son and daughter living at Barton Lane, West Derby.
William cannot be traced by myself in the death records, thats not to say I may have missed it.
Elizabeth died in 1865 and is listed as widow on her death certificate.
I dont know if any kind soul can clear this long term matter up for me, it would be one less headache.
Thank you.

[kiterunner]

I can't see a death listed in Liverpool / West Derby but of course he could have died away from home in which case there are lots of possibles.

[Olde Crone]

Have you discounted the one who died in 1860 aged 64 (Stockport)?

Of course if his surname is misspelled, he could be any of many!

OC

[kiterunner]

There is a family tree on ancestry which shows William's son George getting married to Mary Jane Price in 1858. The marriage certificate is also on ancestry in the Liverpool parish records, and for George's father it says William Hallawell, warehouseman. It doesn't say "deceased", although of course that doesn't mean he was definitely still alive.

[xkopite]

Thanks for replies, I just cannot see him going this far a field ie. Stockport with his job as a carter, hope that does not sound foolish.

[xkopite]

Hi Kiterunner,
Yes I have this info and I have debated it, thats not to say he did not die 1858 to 1861 ?
Thanks for looking.

In Tenterfield, NSW there was a farmer called George Helliwell, he would have been a contemporary of my father's, so born 1900/10s. It must be a difficult name to track as there must be lots of mistranscriptions. Good luck.

[garstonite]

29th August 1858 at St Mary,Edge Hill,Liverpool
Mary Jane Price to George HALLAWALL ....another version of the spelling
allan

[garstonite]

could this be his marriage
marriage 9th July 1818 at St Anne Richmond, Liverpool
William Halliwell a COACHMAN of this parish to
Elizabeth Jones ( X ) a spinster of this parish
witness Richard Jones ( X ) and Benjamin Vaughan
married by Banns by William Blundell minister
being a coachman and marrying an Elizabeth, it looks a possible
what age does it state the children are in 1841 census ?

possible children

Elizabeth Halliwell babtised 30th sep 1821 at St Peter,Liverpool
child of William Halliwell and Elizabeth
Coachman
abode Rathbone Street
babtised by J Pulford

Sarah Halliwell babtised 25th May 1823 ....same church and parents
a Coachman
abode Berry St ...(gone up in the world )

William Halliwell babtised 16 mar 1828 ...same church /parents/abode Berry St
occupation a FRUITERER ??.....not a coachman and not a carter ???......

Harriet Halliwell babtised 5th sept 1830 same church / parents /abode
occ a SHOPKEEPER ...he now owns the shop
OK...gone 20 years since that marriage...that`s all the children I could find .....do ANY of the children match yours in 1841 census ???.....IF this is your William and Elizabeth , that`s 4 children ( only one son - I may have missed one...so many babtisms with the various spellings of that name )...you stated 3...maybe one of these children left home or died before the 1841 census......if born abt 1793 , William would have been about 25 at his marriage in 1818....
allan

[garstonite]

By the way Kopite...as you probably know...you could walk from Berry St to Stanhope St in about 10 minutes.... so if the Shop didn`t work out, William may have sold it and gone back to being a coachman by 1841 ...but stayed in the area
allan