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16-02-21, 08:58
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Benjamin Hawkins b 1847 Newfoundland
I seem to have quite a few DNA matches with this chap. While this is feasible, the trees take him back in Newfoundland for several generations.
The forty five or so trees do not disagree that his father was Thomas, born 1790. As I don't have a world subscription, could sks check that there are records to support this? I suspect that there was a small society in Newfoundland who mainly originated in Dorset, with plenty of intermarriages, so Benjamin is a red herring. The alternative is a very strong clump of DNA which has continued down the generations.
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16-02-21, 09:54
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Could there be a fishing connection, Phoenix?
My 4x g-grandfather turned up in coastal Devon about 1800. The family story was he came from Newfoundland, and came to the UK because there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing by the fishing fleets. I should add I've never found any evidence to support this, but the family stories from this line have generally been quite accurate.
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16-02-21, 10:56
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Entirely, Lindsay.
Huge quantities of fish from Newfoundland coming to the UK. I think it was timber travelling in the opposite direction, but I wouldn't swear to it. About twenty years ago I attended a conference on the subject. Many of the surnames in Newfoundland are very obviously West Country in origin.
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16-02-21, 11:41
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I can't find any records on Ancestry to support it but maybe there will be some on other sites. One of the witnesses at Benjamin's wedding was an Edward Hawkins.
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16-02-21, 12:10
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Everybody seems remorselessly to have copied everyone else.
I have a spare Thomas b 1800 with brothers Robert William and Benjamin who seems a prime candidate to be the man who married Jane Rodgers in Newfoundland, but a census or the burial entry would knock that into a cocked hat.
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16-02-21, 14:27
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"As Newfoundland did not become a province of Canada until 1949, it was not included in the Canadian census returns of 1851 to 1911. Only a few local census returns have survived for some areas of the province."
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census...ilm-reels.aspx
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16-02-21, 15:16
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Ooh, thank you, Kite!
So unless it was spelled out on a gravestone, nobody would have known where Thomas came from. Not sure I can battle with DNA against the combined wisdom of over forty trees, but it does strengthen my case.
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16-02-21, 15:59
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I have found the marriage of Benjamin's parents on Family Search. Thomas was a bachelor, living in Greenspond and Jane Rogers a spinster of Vere Island. Oct 30 1832. This is effectively an index, so no signatures, witnesses etc.
No trace that I can find of Thomas' death/burial in 1868.
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17-02-23, 11:02
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Yet another DNA match with Thomas Hawkins.
This time Ancestry hints suggest a Newfoundland record for Thomas. Would someone with worldwide membership check the record thrown up by the hints, please? https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=202448236225 It's probably the 1832 marriage to Jane Rogers, but it might be the burial of Thomas.
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17-02-23, 11:20
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The info is from Geneanet Community Trees Index
copy and paste: Name: Thomas Hawkins Gender: M (Male) Birth Date: 1790 Birth Place: Dorsetshire, Dorset, England, United Kingdom Death Date: 25 mai 1868 (25 May 1868) Death Place: Greenspond, Newfoundland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada Spouse: Jane Rogers Child: Elizabeth Hawkins Link to Geneanet: https://gw.geneanet.org/mepeckham?n=...s&oc=&p=thomas
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