Hannah Castle's husbands - Genealogists' Forum

Phoenix · #1 26-09-17, 16:17

Hannah had a complicated life.
She married John Hoadley Scrivenor in Westminster in 1777.
After his death, she married Captain Walter Kettilby Alder 3 Nov 1787:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...88/edit/record

and after his death she married Gilbert Alder 7 April 1804:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti.../1120334373744
/edit/record

This is her will, though it does not hold clues to my problem:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...67/edit/record

Which is: how were Walter and Gilbert related?

Walter and his four surviving siblings (Mary, Eliza, Thomas and Luke) were the children of Luke Alder and Elizabeth Kettilby, who married in Ipswich in 1743. Elizabeth's brother Walter, who died in 1770, left a fishery in Ethermouth/Edermouth to be divided between those five children.

Luke was in London by the 1740s, and his children were born in Whitechapel, but there were links with the North East.

There is a Gilbert, bp 1752 in Longframlington, Northumberland, son of William, but he may be a red herring.

Luke was probably bp 1707 in Alwinton, son of Thomas, and apprenticed to a merchant in Alnwick in 1721. But I don't know!!!

kiterunner · #2 26-09-17, 16:26

Well, on the marriage to Hannah, Gilbert is Gilbert Alder Esquire of Low Layton, Essex, and the Durham University Library Special Collections Catalogue includes this, so he must have had North Eastern connections:

Reference: DPRI/1/1831
DPRI/1/1831/A1 12 November 1831
Gilbert ALDER, esquire, of Laytonstone in the county of Essex [Leyton, Essex]
parish uncertain
Registered copy: DPRI/2/42 p17-20
DPRI/1/1831/A1/1-4 5 September 1806
copy will
copy will from the registry of the Prerogative court of Canterbury endorsed with memorandum relating that probate was first granted at London on 17 December 1806

kiterunner · #3 26-09-17, 16:27

Here's Gilbert's will on ancestry (not read it yet):

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

Phoenix · #4 26-09-17, 16:39

Gilbert married Martha Mills and had two children: Gilbert b 1800 and Martha b 1799.

I assume that Hannah was much nearer his own age than Martha had been.

Phoenix · #5 26-09-17, 16:42

I get confused by the two Lukes, but I think that senior was an Oil and Colourman, while the younger was a Dry Salter - presumably of the fruit of the fishery.

kiterunner · #6 26-09-17, 16:44

This is Gilbert's burial, 17 Sep 1806 at St Mary Abchurch, London:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults
It says he was of Laytonstone. His age is partly hidden in the binding but it looks like 55.

Phoenix · #7 26-09-17, 16:55

This is Walter Kettilby Alder's will:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...86/edit/record

Phoenix · #8 26-09-17, 16:57

This is Elizabeth Selby nee Alder's will:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

kiterunner · #9 26-09-17, 16:57

There's a tree on ancestry which has Gilbert as a son of Luke and Elizabeth:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tr...85698178/facts

But needs checking!

Phoenix · #10 26-09-17, 17:05

That's the best and most trustworthy of the trees I've seen, but I refuse to believe that Gilbert was a brother. Everyone should have thrown up their hands in horror at Hannah's third marriage, and the fisheries were clearly so valuable that the children mention their fifth part.