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Oh, that tree doesn't look very accurate, so given that Gilbert wasn't listed among the children in Walter sr's will, I guess it's wrong.
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This is Elizabeth sr's will, and no mention of Gilbert, so that tree must have been wrong:

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Don't know whether you've seen this in TNA's catalogue, Phoenix? Though I suppose it was brought because of Hannah's previous relationship to the other Alders, but it's possible that the documents would explain how Gilbert was related too.

Reference: C 13/487/5
Description: [W1805 A30].
Short title: Alder v Alder.
Document type: Bill only.
Plaintiffs: Luke Alder and another.
Defendants: Gilbert Alder, Hannah Alder, John Sheppard, [unknown] Selby and Elizabeth Selby.
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Note: The naming of a party does not imply that he or she will appear in all the documents in this cause (after the bill)
Date: 1805
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Ooh, I seem to have missed that will!

Not sure what happened to Mary. She was the wife of Robert Lea.
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And that TNA ref!! Thanks, Kite!
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I know this is a really old thread and you may have worked it all out but thought I would reply.
Gilbert Alder was my 5x great grandfather.
The tree that is on ancestry that everyone seems to copy is very inaccurate.
Gilbert was the son of William Alder and Elizabeth Alder (not related but both from Alder lines)
Walter is Elizabeth Alder’s nephew.
Martha Mills the first wife died in 1801 and is buried in st Mary’s abchurch NOT 1844 as some have got on their tree.
Gilbert did indeed marry Hannah who was the widow of his cousin Walter.
I’m happy to share my tree
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Hi Alderfamily,welcome to the forum!

I got totally tangled with the various Gilberts and Lukes.

I am primarily interested in the Luke Alder who married Elizabeth Kettilby. His grandson Joseph Cheshire married Sarah Cooper, a relation of mine. At the same time, Edward Hughes married Jane AlderIN who might be unrelated. She died in 1830 and was probably born c 1761. Their grandson Edward Lines married another relation.


I have to go out very shortly, but I would be very interested in your tree, and exchanging info once I'm up to speed on the family.
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Old 26-08-21, 07:03
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Right.

So William Alder had children John, Gilbert and Frances, all baptised in Longframlington, Northumberland in the 1740s and 1750s.

I can't find a will for John, but his widow Mary made a distressingly long will in 1807, proved in 1812. She mentions her sister in law Frances and her son Daniel.

Gilbert's will mentions his sister Frances and his nephew Daniel.

Frances outlived them both. She was buried in 1836, allegedly aged 90, and mentions nephew Daniel in her will.

I assume that any other of William's children died young or without children, or contact with siblings in London?
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