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Old 08-07-11, 14:41
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Thought I'd get this in before Marg gets a chance with Peter Henry Harrison

Name - "official" name and what they were known as


John Claud Hamilton (Jack)


Date and place of birth

29th April 1895 Cork Ireland. No birth cert

Names of parents

Mr and Mrs Hamilton. No sign of them or John in Ireland 1901 or 1911. John described his father as a "hard-headed Scotchman" (sic) when he visited 'his people' in Cork in 1919 to try and reconcile their differences. He said his parents would not speak to him.

His father was supposed to have been harbourmaster in Dundee before he moved to Ireland and his paternal grandmother was supposed to have been Norwegian!

His mother was supposed to have been Irish and when John was young he was supposed to have lived with his parents (Scots and Irish), his maternal grandmother (Irish) and his two sisters, Eileen/Aileen and Kathleen, one of whom emigrated to Canada in the early 1920s.

None of this info has helped one iota in finding who John Claud Hamilton was!


Details of each of his or her marriages - if any - and any divorces

15th Sept 1920 at Southampton Register Office to Lilian Victoria Rogers. No groom's father's name on the cert.
Separation Order granted to Lilian V Hamilton in the mid-1950s


Occupation(s) - if any

Merchant navy after WW1

Military service - if any

WW1 Private and gunner (56967) in Royal Field Artillery. Record has not survived as far as I can see.

Addresses where they lived - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on, if applicable.

Early life: Cork
WW1 Salisbury Plain
After WW1 Southampton
When WW2 began his wife and daughter moved away from Southampton and he lived in lodgings between sailings
At death: of no fixed abode. He was probably in a seamans mission.


Date, place and cause of death

1st July 1962 at The West London Hospital, Hammersmith of bronchopneumonia, chronic bronchiectasis

Date and place of burial / cremation.

His body was given to medical science by his daughter (she may have been aliasing as his wife at the time of giving this instruction). We found out a few years ago he was eventually buried 10th May 1963 at South London Crematorium & Streatham Park Cemetery, Streatham Vale, Rowan Rd, London SW16 (RC Plot)

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable

None

Memorial inscription - if any

None




John Claud Hamilton about 1918
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Old 08-07-11, 14:47
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Oh no, not him!
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Thought I'd get this in before Marg gets a chance with Peter Henry Harrison

I reckon Kate is leaving father's father's until the last week.
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Hve you seen this tree on Ancestry?

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/138...erson/-7007189
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This thread on Rootschat says that he isn't the Droum one:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index...9834;topicseen
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Old 08-07-11, 18:38
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Well I've learned two things today -

1) My OH is a member of Rootschat

2) My OH passes off my research as his own!! pmsl!

Yes, Wendy and Kite - the Ancestry tree owner is one of OH's distant cousins who isn't in to correcting his tree!

Oh and a little poetic licence here, I think (from Rootsweb)

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My mother does remember him saying (tantalisingly) " what would you think if your name wasn't Hamilton but (and I cannot remember exactly what she said) O'Hara " or something like that. My mother replied to him saying " I would like it better if it had been Rogers " (her mother's maiden surname).
I don't remember OH's mother every saying she would have prefered to be a Rogers. A very good answer (I'm sure she would have loved to have said that), but possibly made up by OH???!!! lol

Thanks for looking
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Name - "official" name and what they were known as


John Claud Hamilton (Jack)


Date and place of birth

29th April 1895 Cork Ireland. No birth cert

Names of parents

Mr and Mrs Hamilton. No sign of them or John in Ireland 1901 or 1911. John described his father as a "hard-headed Scotchman" (sic) when he visited 'his people' in Cork in 1919 to try and reconcile their differences. He said his parents would not speak to him.

His father was supposed to have been harbourmaster in Dundee before he moved to Ireland and his paternal grandmother was supposed to have been Norwegian!

His mother was supposed to have been Irish and when John was young he was supposed to have lived with his parents (Scots and Irish), his maternal grandmother (Irish) and his two sisters, Eileen/Aileen and Kathleen, one of whom emigrated to Canada in the early 1920s.

None of this info has helped one iota in finding who John Claud Hamilton was!

The above needs serious updating!!

Name - "official" name and what they were known as


Birth name David Hutton. Known as John Hamilton (Jack) after around 1912. Other family members also gave him the middle name Claud(e) but he didn't use that himself.


Date and place of birth

27th (not 29th) April 1895 at The Lying In Hospital, Cork Ireland.

Names of parents

Father unknown . His mother's husband, David Hutton sr, is named on the birth certificate, but David sr was at sea (probably in Japan or that area) at the time David jr was conceived.

David/John's mother was Margaret nee Scannell. David was in her care until the age of four, when he was found to be neglected (and "lodging with common prostitutes") and was sent by the authorities first to St Joseph's Industrial School, Passage West, Cork and in 1904 to Greenmount Industrial School, Cork.



I suppose I should really change the title of this thread to JCH's birth name, but he will always be John Claud Hamilton to us and probably to some of you too!! lol
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