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Old 20-03-13, 18:07
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They certainly seem to have travelled around! Here they are in Canada in 1861:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...&pid=797526307

William Bifield Brown Clerk 33 married born England
Kate Brown age 26 married born England
Charles Childs Brown 8 born England
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Old 20-03-13, 18:08
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Oh! Now William Bifield Brown, Kate and Charles Childs Brown are in Canada in 1861.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...&pid=797526307

William Bifield Brown, 31, clerk, b England
Kate Brown, wife, 26, b England
Charles Childs Brown, 8, b England
John Hall, 64, gentleman, b England
David Wm Coward, 21, clerk, b England
Mary Bulger, 20, domestic, b Ireland
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Old 20-03-13, 18:13
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Snap, Shona! I think the Gentleman is John Fall, not Hall.
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We cross-posted, Kite!

I've been checking out Kate Brown nee Kindley's father, Ralph Sheldon Kindley.

He seems to have been born in North Shields and married three times.

1 1824 married Sarah Holley, St Dunstan's and All Saints, Stepney.
2 1826 married Dorothy Childs in Penzance.
3 1834 married Jane Berryman in Madron, Penzance.
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They could have made a whole series out of this episode!
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It gets better...

On Rootsweb someone has transcribed marriage notices from Cornish newspapers.

30 JUNE 1848, Friday

At the Registrar's Office, Redruth, to Saturday last, MR. W. PENROSE, builder, to DOROTHY, second daughter of the late CAPT. R. S. KINDLEY, of Penzance.

At Camborne, on Monday last, MR. J. UNWIN, merchant, of London, to Amelia, second daughter of MR. JOHN ROWE, builder, of Penzance.

At St. Erth, on Wednesday last, MR. JOHN POLGLASE, to MISS JULIANNA TONKIN, of Hayle.

At Madron, on the 21st instant, CAPT. NEWMAN, of the schooner "President," of Scilly, to URSULA MUMFORD, second daughter of MR. RICHARD ROWE, builder, Penzance; on the 22nd, MR. J. RICHARDS, of Truro, to KATE, youngest daughter of the late CAPT. R. S. KINDLEY, of Penzance; and on Saturday, MR. WILLIAM DASH, baker, to LOUISA, daughter of MR. B. DREW, hatter, both of Penzance.
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Old 20-03-13, 18:25
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So whatever happened to Kate Kindley's first husband, Mr J Richards?
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Old 20-03-13, 18:33
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There are some public trees on ancestry which have this as the family in 1870 in the USA:
1870 US census
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Brown, William 39 Bookkeeper born England
Kate 35 Keeping House born Spain
Carlos 16 Printer born England.

Then on the 1900 census Sister Katharine is born at sea, father born Spain, mother born England. Widow age 63, born May 1837. And it says she has had no children.
1900 US census
(Unlike the UK 1911 census which only asks about children born to the current marriage, the US 1900 one doesn't mention that, just says "Mother of how many children". ) Or did she not count Charles in that column because he was dead by then?

Anyway, I wonder where she was really born! They did make a lot out of that "at sea" on the programme, but her birthplace seems to be different on each census.
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And there is some interesting info on here:
http://www.birdchildsandgoldsmith.co...s_History.html

And something written by William Bifield Brown:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/3384160...ionId=41639077
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Thanks for those links. There is a lot more to this family history than was revealed in 30 mins of TV. I hope the producers revealed the bigger picture to Edie.
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