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Old 23-09-17, 09:23
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I wonder if Kate's CD would tell us John Barry's occ as that might help find him later.
Sorry, no. It just has John Burry / Sarah Smith, by banns, both OTP.
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Burry lol!! Thanks for looking Kate
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If that 1838 birth for John Smith mmn Barry was supposed to be Berry then there are loads of matches!
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Old 23-09-17, 10:36
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There are other Standfast Smiths around Bristol.

Standfast Smith PCC will 1774 Bristol

Thomas Standfast Smith m 1805 Bristol

Thomas Standfast Smith Index To Death Duty entry 1807 Bristol
I did speed-read the will of Standfast Smith but didn't notice a legacy to this TSS. However in this book:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ith%22&f=false

it says TSS committed suicide by slitting his throat at Berwick (upon Tweed) in 1807 (so presumably the same man as the one with the death duty entry) having inherited a lot of money in the past from an uncle.

This (Bristol) family do seem to get about.
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1775-1768 Thomas Standfast Smith was apprenticed to John Laws of Berwick, carpenter. That's from FMP and here:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ith%22&f=false
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TSS's widow married Luke Haynes at Bristol in 1808.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ith%22&f=false

I realise all this has probably nothing to do with your original Q, but it's easier to copy and paste stuff at the time than to think "what was that I saw yesterday?" should something actually useful appear!
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Though the Death Duty entry for TSS said Bristol, I saw this in the Durham University Library Special Collections Catalogue

Administration bonds 1807

DPRI/3/1807/A108 2 December 1807
administration bond, penal sum £390; Thomas Standfast SMITH, gentleman, of Berwick-upon-Tweed in the county of Northumberland
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If the father of Joseph Standfast Smith was connected to the earlier Standfast Smiths of Bristol etc and were therefore connected with Thomas SS who slit his throat, you would think they might not want to give their new son his name just a few months afterwards.
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Intriguing, isn't it?!
I haven't yet looked for baptisms for the children of Joseph and Caroline; I shall search for them later today.

I did wonder if my Caroline Sadd just took the surname Barry in a marriage to Joseph, for some unknown reason but, no, that cannot be so because there is a baptism for an actual Caroline Barry in 1814 in Walcot, Somerset.

PS I hadn't seen all your new replies before posting this. Shall read carefully and get back later. Thank you so much!

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I did speed-read the will of Standfast Smith but didn't notice a legacy to this TSS. However in this book:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ith%22&f=false

it says TSS committed suicide by slitting his throat at Berwick (upon Tweed) in 1807 (so presumably the same man as the one with the death duty entry) having inherited a lot of money in the past from an uncle.

This (Bristol) family do seem to get about.

I think that was a Bristol thing.
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