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Old 22-09-17, 18:19
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Default Joseph Standfast Smith

According to ancestry, he married
Sarah Smith 2nd January 1832 in Bristol, Gloucester
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Caroline Barry 16th February 1833 in Holy Trinity, Bristol, Gloucester.

I had hoped with the new records in find my past for Bristol, Gloucester to be able to see more about these marriages but I cannot see anything about them.
Can anyone else see more than I can, please?
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Old 22-09-17, 18:44
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Burial of first wife Sarah Smith, 26 Feb 1832 at Bristol, Holy Trinity, St Philip, Gloucestershire aged 23
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Old 22-09-17, 18:49
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Caroline Barry 16th February 1833 in Holy Trinity, Bristol, Gloucester.
I think Caroline must have been a widow at this marriage as her maiden name comes up as Sadd for the births of her children with Joseph.
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Old 22-09-17, 18:52
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Oh, there's a tree on Ancestry that says there were two Carolines! I will have a look to see if Caroline Berry died, as they have not found a marriage to Caroline Sadd.
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They're on my CD. First one (Sarah Smith) was at St Augustine the Less, by banns, both OTP.
The second one (Caroline Barry) was by licence, he was a widower, sack manufacturer, OTP, and she was a spinster, of Walcot, Somerset. Unfortunately the CD doesn't show the witnesses' names. The disk has it as St Philip and St Jacob, not Holy Trinity, unless they're both the same place?
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Old 22-09-17, 18:54
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It does look like Caroline (Sadd) would probably have been too young to have married in 1833.

She was bap in 1817.
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Old 22-09-17, 19:05
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Wow, you have both been very busy. Thank you very much.

I had been trying to establish whether he really is the same Joseph Smith that had children with my relative Caroline Sadd (born 1816 in Suffolk) - but I am not totally sure that he is the same person.

Thank you very much for the information about Sarah and about Caroline, very helpful of you.
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Old 22-09-17, 19:09
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They are together in 1881 with the right birthplaces.

I forgot I was supposed to be looking for the burial of Caroline Barry.
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Old 22-09-17, 19:10
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He was made bankrupt in 1863. Have you got the notices for that? (FMP newspapers). His occ of stone carver on the 1881 census matches the bankruptcy notice occ where he is listed with his full name.
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Old 22-09-17, 19:21
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Thank you, Merry. Yes, I had read about the bankruptcy but am still not certain that Joseph Standfast Smith is my Caroline's Joseph Smith: her Joseph was a stone carver, yet the marriage record for the former (given above by Kite) stated he was a sack manufacturer, and this makes me think even more that the one married to Sarah and to Caroline Barry is not my Caroline's Joseph Smith.
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