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Old 23-07-23, 08:56
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Default New Zealand marriage

There is this couple marrying in New Zealand:

First name(s) John J
Last name Madden
Spouse's first name(s) Alice Emily
Spouse's last name Wingfield
Registration year 1904
Registration number 1904/3193
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Record set New Zealand Marriage Index
Country New Zealand
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Australasia, New Zealand


Is there any way of finding out the fathers of the couple?
I'm particularly interested in Alice Emily.

There are online trees but lots of errors and omissions.
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Old 23-07-23, 10:31
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Could this be Alice's birth

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia...#SearchResults
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Old 23-07-23, 10:33
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... and a John James Madden

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia...#SearchResults

MMN is not listed on births but marriages for the parents will be on that site too
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Old 23-07-23, 10:36
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Sorry just realised it knocks search results out.

Alice parents listed as William and Fanny, and John's is John and Sarah Jane
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Old 23-07-23, 10:38
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Thanks, Maggie. There is one online tree which is completely wrong!

I have a DNA match for my OH and there is a rudimentary tree but many of the dates are impossible so I'm going to have to reconstruct it if I'm to get anywhere.
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Old 23-07-23, 10:38
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Sorry just realised it knocks search results out.

Alice parents listed as William and Fanny, and John's is John and Sarah Jane
Just in case you didnt see my post above
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Old 23-07-23, 10:48
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Just in case you didnt see my post above
Yes, thanks! I managed to get there quite easily.
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Old 23-07-23, 11:19
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I have Wingfields in my family.
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Old 23-07-23, 12:41
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You have probably got here already, but Fanny and William married in Islington, London. I wanted to see who his father was, I have missing male Wingfields, but its Charles, I dont have a Charles.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource
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Old 23-07-23, 13:08
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You have probably got here already, but Fanny and William married in Islington, London. I wanted to see who his father was, I have missing male Wingfields, but its Charles, I dont have a Charles.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource
Thanks, Maggie.

The problem is I am not sure that the tree is correct, in which case the Wingfields are irrelevant to my OH's tree.

Ilma Kathleen Daisley married John Madden in New Zealand in 1920. They had a daughter through whose offspring the DNA match comes.

Several people have John Madden and Jack Wingfield Madden as the same person.


I have these births in New Zealand:

1921/2639 Madden Mabel Ilma Ilma Kathleen John -
1924/4681 Madden Ellen Alisa Elizabeth Ilma Kathleen John

1930/28495 Madden Gavin Keith Kath Elizabeth Jack Kingfield -
1926/2681 Madden Lawrence Kate Elizabeth Jack Winefield -


Also:
1904/13584 Madden Jack Wingfield Alice Emily John Joseph

This seems to indicate that John Madden and Jack Wingfield Madden are two different people. It seems that I need to research John Madden and Ilma Kathleen Daisley.

Last edited by ElizabethHerts; 23-07-23 at 21:30. Reason: Spelling correction
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