A Stubborn Brick Wall

[Libby9]

Originally Posted by Merry

The William I found had a son called Charles Edward bap 26th Dec 1819 in Uxbridge. Their surname is recorded as Edling, but when Charles marries he is Headland.

William's wife was Harriet. There's a marriage between William Headland and Harriett Birch at St Pancras in 1811, so its likely there were other children if this is the right marriage. The witnesses were Richard Castell (or Costelo) and John Stanley (serial witness)

Doesn't know where I'm going with this yet!

Originally Posted by vita

I have come across some of these names on Ancestry during my research, but have never
made a connection with my Headlands. Its beginning to look as if Uxbridge was full of them!
I came across another family from there - father William Isaac James - living in Chapel St at the same time as mine, but couldn't make a connection there either. Surely no coincidence, though?
Thanks again.
Vita.

I think there has to be a connection as Mary Ann's baptism certificate names her sponsors as M. A Atkinson and Harriet Birch

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/16...l=ReturnRecord

According to the 1851 census both William I J Headland and his wife Maria Moore were born Uxbridge.

[vita]

Just got in after a day out up the coast. I was going to say "yes please" re sponsors

names & now I've seen this very interesting. Christiana's mother was Mary Ann Atkinson

so that's probably the other sponsor.

[Libby9]

And here's that name TRENLEY, again!

Feb 28 1788, Harriet Birch dau of James and Harriet of Hillingdon.

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Saint Giles Cripplegate 28 Apr 1787

James Birch and Harriott [sic] TRENLEY

[vita]

Originally Posted by Libby9

And here's that name TRENLEY, again!

Feb 28 1788, Harriet Birch dau of James and Harriet of Hillingdon.

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Saint Giles Cripplegate 28 Apr 1787

James Birch and Harriott [sic] TRENLEY

Ooooh, you & Merry are so good! Can't tell you how much it would mean to me

if we get to the bottom of this.

Don't know if its me feeling a bit tired after my day out, but I'm getting a bit

confused now. So are we saying William b 1787 who married Harriet Birch is

probably the brother of my Thomas b 1786 who now looks even more likely

to be son of Isaac who did a runner around 1800 & Sarah, nee Trenley?

[Libby9]

So are we saying William b 1787 who married Harriet Birch is

probably the brother of my Thomas b 1786 who now looks even more likely

to be son of Isaac who did a runner around 1800 & Sarah, nee Trenley?

Can't be certain of that, Vita, but the 'players' in this search do seem to all relate somehow. My hesitancy is the same as has already been mentioned: Sarah, wife of Isaac mentioned only two sons.

[vita]

Originally Posted by Libby9

Can't be certain of that, Vita, but the 'players' in this search do seem to all relate somehow. My hesitancy is the same as has already been mentioned: Sarah, wife of Isaac mentioned only two sons.

I know - big problem. But perhaps omitted for reasons suggested?

Re M A Atkinson - could also have been Christiana's sister Maria Ann.

Bailing out to tend to OH now but will return tomorrow.

[Merry]

lol I'm just wondering if I'm supposed to know the significance of the name Trenley!

I feel like I'm reading a few excerpts from a novel and having to guess the parts in between!

[vita]

Originally Posted by Merry

lol I'm just wondering if I'm supposed to know the significance of the name Trenley!

I feel like I'm reading a few excerpts from a novel and having to guess the parts in between!

Stop it! You're making me feel bad! Trenley was the maiden name of Sarah,

wife of Isaac Headland identified in "A Stubborn Brick Wall" as most likely

parents of Thomas b 1786.

[vita]

Originally Posted by Libby9

And here's that name TRENLEY, again!

Feb 28 1788, Harriet Birch dau of James and Harriet of Hillingdon.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Saint Giles Cripplegate 28 Apr 1787

James Birch and Harriott [sic] TRENLEY

Would I be right in saying that if William does turn out to be son of Isaac &

Sarah, he married his cousin Harriet Birch, daughter of Sarah's sister Harriot?

Now I really MUST tend to OH or he'll be accusing me of neglect!

[Libby9]

Originally Posted by vita

Would I be right in saying that if William does turn out to be son of Isaac &

Sarah, he married his cousin Harriet Birch, daughter of Sarah's sister Harriot?

Now I really MUST tend to OH or he'll be accusing me of neglect!

Sounds right if you know Sarah had a sister Harriet, but I've not delved further into the Trenleys'. I don't imagine it's a common name, certainly I've not heard it before.