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Old 08-08-23, 07:38
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John Terence Sherlock b 9/11/1897 in Skerries Dublin
an active IRA member - killed by the Black and Tans in Skerries Dublin 27th October 1920 aged 22 - a statue was erected to celebrate his life
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...photo=91864725
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1901 census
Michael Sherlock aged 37 - father
Jane Sherlock aged 38 - mother
siblings
James 13
Luke 11
Mary Ele 9
Joseph 7
JOHN TERENCE 3
Alica - no age given
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John Terence known as Terry - has 2 blood relatives who drink in my local and live here in Garston - they tell me that after Terrys death - more or less the whole family moved to the USA . paid for by the IRA
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I have searched a few sites - but can't find Michael and Janes marriage - the 2 girls would love to find out her maiden name .so when they visit Skerries again they can see if there is any family with that surname left in Skerries
sadly - they tell me that every time they visit Skerries - the family clam up and won't give them any info .no idea why
if anyone has any spare time I would appreciate a little help ....cheers
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Old 08-08-23, 07:40
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just found this
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off out shopping soon will post after 12 noon ...xx
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Old 08-08-23, 08:20
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From the 1911 Irish census, Michael and Jane had been married 26 years, so about 1884/5.

From the birth registrations of the children, Jane's maiden name was Duff.

Michael and Jane were married 24 August 1885 at the RC chapel at Skerries in the union of Balrothery. Michael and both the fathers were labourers and Jane a servant. Address for both Skerries. Fathers were James Sherlock and Luke Duff. Witnesses were James Mullen and Jane Shervin (?). Everyone signed.

I used this site: https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
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From the same site, Luke Duff died 14 Jan 1910 aged 81 in Skerries. Interestingly he is listed as a sailor. It must be the right death as it was registered by his daughter, Jane Sherlock. Also says he was married rather than a widower.......

No luck finding him in 1901 (didn't look hard!), but in 1911 there's an Alicia Duff widow living in Skerries aged 80....She died 27 Jan 1913 still aged 80(!) in Skerries. The reg wasn't by a family member, so it would be good to find Luke or Alicia in 1901 to be sure they were a couple.
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Ok, they are Luke and Alice Duffe in 1901. He is a retired sailor aged 70 and she is 65. Their address: New Street, Holmpatrick, Dublin, Ireland. Both born Co Dublin.
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I thought the Sherlock family might be too difficult, but there's a James Sherlock died 16 Apr 1901 in Skerries, registered by his son, Michael. This James was aged 66. The census was taken 31 Mar so he should be on it. Death says he was married, not a widower. Michael made his mark though, but on the marriage I detailed earlier he signed. Doesn't mean it's the wrong James's death, but proceed with caution because the surname is more common than Duff!

(BTW, with the previous couple I forgot to say, it's always possible Alice/ia was a step mother to Jane Duff. Alice did fill in the boxes for marriage and children in 1911, but they were rubbed out as she was a widow, so shouldn't have completed that part!)

Can't find the above James S on the 1901 census yet.
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UNBELIEVABLE Merry - you are a star once again - so Duff - Gilligan - and Hogan are blood related family surnames to look for - I am going over with the girls ( both in their 60's ) My son has lived in Saggart ,Dublin for 29 years - so I have 4 grandchildren there ...I will visit my family and help the girls look for theirs ...a big thanks Merry - I don't know how you do it xxxxxxxx....
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I have just realised - the girls never told me who John Terence Sherlock married ??? can you find that marriage please Merry - I will have a look on familysearch now ...xx
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Do you know that he married anyone? He was only 22 when he died.
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I've looked at his death reg and it says bachelor.

I realise I've seen this death before. Have we looked for him before?!!
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