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Old 13-06-19, 12:48
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James Riley is a brickwall. He dies in 1843, aged 49.

Family wisdom says the family came over in the potato famine and originated from the Waterford area.

The latter statement may be true, but he was dead before the famine! and dead before the 1851 census.

Here he is in Cherry Garden St Portsea in 1841 with wife Eleanor and their children: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...162.1531920438


He was a smith in the naval dockyard, apprenticed aged 14 in 1808. Unfortunately, the apprenticeship papers do not name the father.


I have a couple of DNA matches to Riley/Rayley families in Newport, Isle of Wight, and one links to descendants of James and Eleanor.


Very conveniently, John and Sarah Ryley have James baptised in Newport 25 July 1794. Exact fit.


They also have John, bp 27 May 1792 and Betty bp 13 Oct 1799.


A John Reely marries Sarah Smith in 1782 in Newport:



https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...68&usePUB=true


There are three children bp Newport with John as father: John 1782, William 1784, Harry 1786.


This 1841 census shows a John b 1766 and John b 1786 with family in Newport:


https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...94/edit/record



My link appears to be with descendants of John junior. He dies 1858 aged 78, and his father dies 1844 aged 84. (These ages smack of - born abt 1760 and born abt 1780, rather than exact ages)


Apologies for the long preamble. My problem is:


If there is a John bp 1782 and a John bp 1792, are they the same child? Are there two sons with the same name? Are there two families of Johns in Newport?


James is a perfect fit, but his siblings are causing problems. Help!
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It would help if we had online access to the Newport PR images, but they don't seem to be available except at FamilySearch Centres. Maybe it would turn out that the second John was a mistranscription or there would be extra info to answer your questions.
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I certainly incline towards the mistranscription idea. I feel that therecould not be so much DNA in common - 30cM - if the connection were not in the 1790s but the 1760s or earlier.
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