Keeping it in the family *UPDATED - now with birth certs*

[Olde Crone]

Oooh dear, not looking good, is it?

*Sprinkles disinfectant liberally over thread*.

There are some more obscure possibilities, e.g. that one of the people in this story is using a false identity/knows their father is not the one on their birth cert, etc, but I really don't know how you would prove any of that over what is looking very like deliberate incest.

OC

[Joan of Archives]

I know this sounds daft & no doubt it's been asked somewhere but have you ever actually found Ellen Emma & Titus on a census living together as brother & sister?

I think I need to write all this down to work it out lol!

I am still not convinced that my great great grandfather is also my great great Uncle & that his mother in law is also my great great grandmother Although the father's name was pretty unusual & they came from a small village in Sussex, I still think that somewhere someone fibbed on the marriage cert

I also have a similar occurrence with another branch of my tree, where a member on here has my 3 x great grandfather's name as the father of her relative on his marriage cert yet we believe they were in fact brothers & he used my relative's name on the cert as "father" in the loosest sense of the word, ie someone who was possibly next of kin rather than biological parent!

[Merry]

Joanie, on the 1851 census they are both with their maternal grandfather, Richard Godden. *sprays further disinfectant*

[Merry]

Oooh, I have to go out in a min, but what's this?

1911:
Edwin Charles Higgs 31
Charles Harmston 64
Ellen Emma Harmston 70 Hants
Ellen Clark 55
Joseph Shaw 16

in Newark District where Edwin married in Q3 1911.

Can someone check the full details (*looks at Marg *)

[Uncle John]

Stratfield ????? is presumably Stratfield Turgis, which forms a triangle with the other 2 birthplaces.

[Uncle John]

Please miss, can someone please explain where the name Harmston comes into the story.

[Margaret in Burton]

[QUOTE=Merry;52961]Oooh, I have to go out in a min, but what's this?

1911:
Edwin Charles Higgs 31
Charles Harmston 64
Ellen Emma Harmston 70 Hants
Ellen Clark 55
Joseph Shaw 16

in Newark District where Edwin married in Q3 1911.

Can someone check the full details (*looks at Marg *)[/QUOTE]

OK give me a minute, just been to dads.

[Margaret in Burton]

Originally Posted by Uncle John

Please miss, can someone please explain where the name Harmston comes into the story.

Me too.

Here we go:


The census is signed my Ellen Emma and they were living at 80 Beacon Hill, Newark.

Charles Harmston is from Coddington, Notts
Ellen Emma Harmston is from Hartley Wespool, Hampshire ???
Edwin Charles Hicks is from Newark, Notts
Joseph Shaw is from Newark
Ellen Clark is from Doncaster, Yorkshire

[Georgette]

Here are the marriage details :

June Q 1897

Ellen Emma Higgs Newark 7b 841
Charles Harmston Newark 7b 841

[Margaret in Burton]

Zoe

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