Edward Jones

[Zoemcdougall]

Hi I am struggling with finding out about my great grandfather, the info I have is that he was born in sheffield 1873? married to Mary Jane Jones (maiden name Jones) in Newtown 1899. they had 5 children. on the 1901 wales census has him down as Edward Jones but on the 1911 has him down as Edward H Jones. died 1956 in north wales, I am trying find his birth record and death record, I have his marriage cert. my aunt seem to think he was brought up in an orphanage or workhouse, but I don't know how to find out if there is any truth in this. as I am trying to find out who his parents were. all I certain of is the names of his wife and children, I would love to get a copy of his birth cert but without out the name of either 1 parents I'm not sure where to look.

Zoe

[Merry]

I take it there is no father's name on his marriage certificate?

[Merry]

Do you know where in North Wales he died?

For ref....

1911 aged 34
1901 aged 25

[Zoemcdougall]

It has Edward as his father's name, (deceased). But when I tried to look for his birth record, couldn't find any with Edward as the father,

[Zoemcdougall]

He is buried in porthmadog cemetary,.

[Merry]

Do you know that he died in that area though?

I think Porthmadog would have come under the reg district of Pwllhel and Portmadoc (Genuki uses the English spelling) but if I look for Edward Jones b 1875+/-5 years I don't get any registration even within five years of 1956.

Do you know if he has a gravestone?

[Zoemcdougall]

He does have a gravestone, I have been once but that was a very long time ago, I seem to think he was about 82/83, when he died. i don't know for certain that he died in Porthmadog, i know that he used to visit his daughter alot in prestatyn,, north wales, so maybe he died there. on his marriage cert his age was 22. I have just spoken to my Dad & has just told me he died in Rhyl. I was always under the impression because he livred in Porthmadog and buried there he died there. so all I know for sure is that he was born Sheffield, by 1901 living in wales, married and died in Wales. but no nearer finding out who his parents were, why he moved from Sheffield to Wales
Zoe

[Merry]

I've just found some threads on Rootschat which inclde this:

on his gravestone it has aged as 83, 18th Jan 1956. by my calculations it should be 79.

Going with the idea that his death cert may well also say 83 years I found these registrations:

Name: Edward Jones
Birth Date: abt 1873
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: St Asaph
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 641

Name: Edward Jones
Birth Date: abt 1873
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: St Asaph
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 615

There are more if the criteria is widened though.

[Merry]

We cross posted - Rhyl is in St Asaph district.

[Zoemcdougall]

Do you think I should order both of these cert to see which is the right one?, then it just leaves me with finding his birth entry, which is proving difficult