Grandfather st Helens 1871

[Qwackers]

hi ,thanks elizabeth , i eventually found her on the 1911 census . in manchester . but they didn't have children ,so the trail ends there . yes i use bmd a lot , it's a great resource . thanks

[Olde Crone]

They did have one child, Beatrice, born 1893 died 1894. I know that leads nowhere, but I always record these poor mites anyway, as they were part of the family even if it was only a very short time.

OC

[Qwackers]

thanks for that ,what a shame .

[Qwackers]

Hi , I am in a bit of a quandary , trying to work out who is what on the tree I have found . Please note 34 Henry Burrows Children . I wanted to follow James burrows son on Henry Burrows . He married a sarah moss in skelmersdale approx 1897. they had two children , one of whom was Edward Burrows born 1897 , i looked to see him with parents in 1901 but instead found him in bickerstaffe with a Ellen rothwell , it says grandson . he is still in bickerstaffe on the 1911 census with the rothwell family . I presumed that ellen was his mother's mother . .I tried to find either james and sarah together or separately but couldn't find them on these censuses . Where are they leaving their child ? James is my uncle , and he was alive when i was small ,so he hadn't died . It's a mystery . can anyone solve this . I also thought that Henry Rothwell had married ellen. but tried to find a marriage for them. but couldn't find that . Thanks

[kiterunner]

I will have a look, but bear in mind the census was only supposed to show where each person was on one particular night. It doesn't always show where their permanent residence was. So if Edward happened to be staying over at his grandparents' house for that one night, he would be listed there.

[kiterunner]

To start with, Lancashire BMD has James Burrows marrying Sarah Moss 1897 at St Paul, Skelmersdale.

Lancashire OPC has the exact marriage date - 4 Jun 1897. James 21, son of Henry, Sarah 18, daughter of Richard Moss. Witnesses Robert Latham and Elizabeth Moss.
This is an example of how much information you can get from Lancashire OPC, compared to Lancashire BMD.

Then Lancashire BMD has Edward's birth 1897 and Mary Alice 1899, both in Lathom sub-district. Lancashire OPC has Edward's baptism - 31 Oct 1897 and Mary Alice's baptism - 22 Aug 1899, both at St Paul, Skelmersdale, abode Skelmersdale, father a miner / collier.

[kiterunner]

You probably have this already, but Mary Alice died in 1899.

[kiterunner]

For reference, this is the 1901 census:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...e&pId=22038865

92 Liverpool Rd, Skelmersdale
Henry Rothwell Head M 60 Horse Driver Lancs Bickerstaffe
Ellen Do Wife M 45 Do Do
George Do Son S 18 Do Do
Edward Burrows Grandson 4 Do Skelmersdale
Joseph Rothwell Brother Widower 63 Farm Labourer Do Bickerstaffe.

[kiterunner]

Henry Rothwell married Ellen Moss 1883 at Holy Trinity, Bickerstaffe.

[Qwackers]

thank you so much your a star once again . ??