Elizabeth Cocker - Genealogists' Forum

kiterunner · #1 13-02-11, 16:04

Name - "official" name and what they were known as Elizabeth Cocker, aka Betty
Date and place of birth 3 May 1785 Chorley, Lancashire
Names of parents William Cocker and Martha nee Glover
Date and place of baptism - if applicable 22 May 1785 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire
Details of each of his or her marriages - if any 19 Nov 1820 at St Leonard, Walton le Dale, Lancashire, to Hugh Ryding. Elizabeth spinster OTP, witnesses John Cocker and James Tomlinson jr. William Cocker, farmer, of Walton le Dale, is bondsman.
Occupation(s) - if any Farmer's wife
Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
Children baptised at Leyland 1821-1826
1841 - Jones Farm, Whittle-le-Woods, Lancashire
1851 - Catforth Lane, Woodplumpton, Lancashire, visiting unmarried sister Nancy (Ann) Cocker.
1861 - Catforth Lane, Woodplumpton, Lancashire with unmarried sister Nancy (Ann) Cocker.
Date, place and cause of death Not found
Date and place of burial. Not found
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable Not found
Memorial inscription - if any Not found

kiterunner · #2 13-02-11, 16:19

Hmmm, I've found a possible burial 10 Jan 1858 at St John the Evangelist, Whittle le Woods, Elizabeth Ryding age 72, abode Whittle, but if that's her then she should be on the 1851 census. Her husband Hugh died in 1842.
There is an Elizabeth, wife of Francis, age 64, in Whittle in 1851 so that is probably the one who died in 1858.

kiterunner · #3 13-02-11, 16:24

There are two Elizabeth Rydings the right age in Whittle in 1851 but I don't think either of them is mine. But probably one of those is the one buried in 1858.

JayG · #4 13-02-11, 16:39

There's a 65 year old Betty Ryding living in Clayton le Woods in 1851, tho i'm guessing you've already seen her.

kiterunner · #5 13-02-11, 17:12

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Originally Posted by JayG

There's a 65 year old Betty Ryding living in Clayton le Woods in 1851, tho i'm guessing you've already seen her.

Yes, I already looked at that one, thanks, but I don't think she's mine because of the occupation (weaver) and although daughter Ann is about the right age it says born Houghton (or Haughton?) and my Ann was born Whittle-le-Woods. Although I have no idea where Houghton or Haughton is!

JayG · #6 13-02-11, 16:47

This caught my eye with Hugh's residence given as Leyland. Tho it's after 11 years after the first child you have & there also appears to be quite a few Hugh Ryding's about!

Marriage: 19 Nov 1820 St Leonard, Walton le Dale, Lancashire, England
Hugh Riding - Farmer of Leyland
Elizabeth Cocker - Spinster of Walton
Witness: John Cocker; James Tomlinson, Jun
Married by Licence by: James Greenwood Off Minister
Register: Marriages 1815 - 1830, Page 117, Entry 350
Source: LDS Film 1656765

JayG · #7 13-02-11, 16:51

Actually thinking about it I suppose it's possible Hugh was married twice, the 1820 marriage to the second Elizabeth might explain the gap in the baptisms?

kiterunner · #8 13-02-11, 17:06

Yes, I was just wondering about that marriage, Jay. I thought the reason I hadn't found any of those Coppull children on the censuses was because they all died young (which they did) but maybe they also didn't belong to my Hugh and Elizabeth at all. Though if Elizabeth is 55 - 59 in 1841, it seems a bit unlikely she would have got married in 1820 as a spinster. But maybe.

Gert in Oz · #9 14-02-11, 08:43

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Originally Posted by kiterunner

Though if Elizabeth is 55 - 59 in 1841, it seems a bit unlikely she would have got married in 1820 as a spinster. But maybe.

Kate.. I have a copy of a marriage of a couple that married in thier 40s in 1818 and had 2 children, it states they are batchelor and spinster, though i suspect they were previously married to other people.

JayG · #10 13-02-11, 17:26

I think it's Hoghton.

Lancs OPC has Ryding entries for Holy Trinity, Hoghton.