Genealogists' Forum - We have branches everywhere!



Go Back   Genealogists' Forum - We have branches everywhere! > Research > Research Questions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 07-01-17, 19:06
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,301
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by James18 View Post
Oh, curse this damned GRO search.

HOOKER, WILLIAM WRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in WYCOMBE Volume 03A Page 464


HOOKER, WILLIAM 0
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in WYCOMBE Volume 03A Page 335


Henry and Maria (Edwin's parents) married in High Wycombe in 1869, and their eldest son Harry was born in 1872, so the timing certainly makes sense. He obviously died very young (registered the same quarter) and it's possible Harry never knew about him ever having existed, hence not listed among the children of his parents' marriage on the 1911 census.

(This doesn't explain Edwin's disappearance, but it's another little piece of the puzzle).
So you think it was the son who filled in the 1911 census form, not the father?
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 07-01-17, 19:08
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,307
Default

Probably a dumb Q, but when you copy and paste birth reg details from the GRO site how come they never seem to have the mmn included??
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 07-01-17, 19:12
James18's Avatar
James18 James18 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 911
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merry View Post
Probably a dumb Q, but when you copy and paste birth reg details from the GRO site how come they never seem to have the mmn included??
They do. In the above case, it's Wright. I think it's just how the paste doesn't include the big tab spaces, Merry.
__________________
Eighteen -- Hadleigh, Suffolk; Reading, Berkshire
Hendry -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wylie -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 07-01-17, 19:16
James18's Avatar
James18 James18 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 911
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiterunner View Post
So you think it was the son who filled in the 1911 census form, not the father?
I believe so, Kate. I have no proof of this, but I'm going by the theory that Henry's (the father) name was always written Henry, whereas his son was called Harry (and registered as such, rather than Henry); the 1911 census form is signed by Harry Hooker, and he has distinguished between Henry Hooker Sr. and Harry Hooker Jr.

So, on that basis, and because William (and Edwin, but that's less clear...) is not counted among the children of the marriage, I would say that Harry Jr. filled in the 1911 census form.
__________________
Eighteen -- Hadleigh, Suffolk; Reading, Berkshire
Hendry -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wylie -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 07-01-17, 19:45
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,307
Default

lol *goes to Specsavers*
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 08-01-17, 00:53
James18's Avatar
James18 James18 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 911
Default

Just to (I hope) help rule out the Matilda Doe link... using the GRO search, I was able to confirm the earlier belief that Matilda Doe was Matilda Brooks, who married Charles Doe in Brentford, Middlesex in 1867.

Going by names of the children on the 1891 census (when they're staying with Henry's family), we can confirm them using the GRO search as:

DOE, JOHN BROOKS
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 468

DOE, MARY LINA BROOKS
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 496

DOE, CHARLES HENRY BROOKS
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 485

DOE, JOSEPH ASHER BROOKS
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 461


I followed up each of the siblings' census records to 1911, but could find no trace of Edwin - although I haven't found Joseph's 1911 census yet. Charles ended up as a clerk, Joseph was a bricklayer, and John went from being a footman and butler to - by 1911 - being a lay brother in the CofE.

It seems Charles Henry and Joseph Asher were known by their middle names.
__________________
Eighteen -- Hadleigh, Suffolk; Reading, Berkshire
Hendry -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wylie -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 08-01-17, 07:52
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,307
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by James18 View Post
although I haven't found Joseph's 1911 census yet.
http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/57...32825043/facts

__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 08-01-17, 08:57
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,307
Default

Here' is Joseph Asher Doe's wife and two sons travelling to Canada:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/29...nSearchResults

The boys were registered Gilbert Asher and James Edward (mmn Gilbert, 1903 and 1905)

Here's Joseph a few months earlier:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...%208&ml_rpos=5

I note they suggest he is single! lol
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 08-01-17, 11:33
James18's Avatar
James18 James18 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 911
Default

Well spotted, Merry!

Back to the drawing board with poor Edwin, it seems...
__________________
Eighteen -- Hadleigh, Suffolk; Reading, Berkshire
Hendry -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wylie -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Last edited by James18; 08-01-17 at 12:06. Reason: Oops!
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 08-01-17, 14:20
James18's Avatar
James18 James18 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 911
Default

I don't have a FMP sub atm, but I'm wondering if there might perhaps be something in a local newspaper, relating to a possible kidnapping, disappearance or accidental death (but even then, there'd be a registration of death).

However, last time I looked through the newspaper archives on FMP there wasn't anything for Surrey.
__________________
Eighteen -- Hadleigh, Suffolk; Reading, Berkshire
Hendry -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wylie -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:50.


Hosted by Photon IT

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 PL3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.