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1939 registration , Otway Street ,Garston ,Liverpool
Hi - can someone let me know how to find the house number my G Grandmother - Martha Anson - lived in during the registration - I want to see if she was alone or had someone living with her ? thanks- Allan
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Martha is at no 38. She is with Ronald A Anson, a house painter, born 3 September 1903.
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Thank you so much Phoenix - I spent many happy days there in the 1950's - Martha was 96 when she died - a wonderful wonderful woman to me - always a smile on her face - I wonder what happened to Ronnie - born Alfred Ronald Anson ..I must see if he married - thanks again - given me more research to do .....cheers ....Allan...ADDED - it's my Uncle Fred - I never clicked - Alfred but called Fred - so I remember him very well ...silly old fool I am ...lol
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Otway street
Hi folks
I wonder if anyone remembers the Mills from 5 Otway Street? My aunt Peggy (Margaret) was the youngest of 8 and born 1929. The 2 older siblings were Lily and Francis. Asking for my cousin who isn’t too confident on the internet. Many thanks. |
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Welcome to the forum, Cathy. I don't know whether Allan will remember any of your cousin's family, but in the mean time, here's some information from Ancestry/Findmypast records: Ancestry Liverpool Electoral Rolls, Otway St: 1918-1919 Robert Mills 5 Otway St 1922-1924 Robert Mills 50 Otway St 1921-1930 Lilian Mills 5 Otway St Lilian seems to be the mother of the children you mention. I don't know what happened to her husband, but in 1931 Lilian married John Devine: Marriages Jun 1931 Devine John Mills Liverpool 8b 246 Mills Lilian Devine Liverpool 8b 246 They are together on the 1939 Register but at a different address: 7 Queen St, Liverpool John Devine b 1 Nov 1866 Dock labourer invalid pensioner Lilian Devine b 2 Apr 1890 Unpaid domestic duties Elizabeth May Mills (future surnames Finn and Lunt) b 31 May 1919 Trolley girl airframe factory Frank Mills b 22 Mar 1922 Joiners apprentice Lilian Mills (future surname Faulkner) b 19 Mar 1926 at school One further entry covered over as possibly still living or not proved dec'd. (this may well be Peggy/Margaret) I also looked at the 1921 census index. You have to pay at the moment to see the actual record, but this is what I've gleaned from playing with the index, to extract as much as possible! These are anyone called Mills in Otway St: 50 Otway St Robert Mills widower b 1865 at Northumberland 5 Otway St Lilian Mills married b 1890 at Shrewsbury, Shropshire William Mills b 1909 at Garston John Mills b 1911 ditto Doris Mills b 1917 ditto Elizabeth Mills b 1919 ditto Looking at the birth registrations for these children, the mother's maiden surname is Davies. I should be able to find William (1909) and mother Lilian on the 1911 census but at the moment they are proving elusive. I will look a bit more.....
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I think the Robert Mills at 50 Otway St is nothing directly to do with the other Mills family (I had thought this could be Lilian's husband at a different address for some reason).
However, it looks likely her husband was called Robert! There's a marriage, 29 Feb 1908 at St Peter's Liverpool for Lilian Ebrey Davies, spinster aged 19 of College Lane to Robert Mills bachelor 21 labourer of Pitt St. Their fathers are Edwin Ebrey Davies labourer and William Mills sawyer. The witnesses are Christopher Rowe and Zilpah Freeman. To prove this is the right marriage, I really need to find the Mills family on the 1911 census with their first son, William......
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There's a WW1 army pension record for the Robert who married Lilian Davies. He was in the North Lancashire Regiment (service no. 14110). His record includes his marriage details from 1908 and the dates of birth of three children, along with being recorded as Roman Catholic.
William 31 Jun 1909 Garston John 20 Dec 1911 Wavertree Ellen 21 Mar 1914 The address for the family is 27 Otway St and we have already seen William and John on the 1921 census with their mother, so that ties together nicely. I still can't see Lilian, William or Robert on the 1911 census.
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Here's something else interesting:
This is the birth reg for Lilian Davies: DAVIES, LILIAN - GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 652 There's no mother's maiden name recorded which suggests she was actually illegitimate. On the 1891 census she appears as a nurse child (ie a child being looked after by people not parents/family) with Edwin Ebrey and his wife, Mary Jane Ebrey nee Littlehales who married in 1885 in Atcham District (includes Shrewsbury).
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Sorry to have taken over your thread, Allan!
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Pretty sure I've now found Lilian's husband in 1921, also birth reg and with his parents in 1891 and 1901. I'll post the info if you need it.
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