Baby adopted but Registration not changed - Genealogists' Forum

vallee · #1 30-08-09, 18:58

If a baby was legally adopted would it still be possible to obtain the original Birth Cert ??? or would it be registered under the new parents names ?
And if so would the registration date be different?
He was originally registered in the March Quarter of 1966 .
I do know the names of the adoptees and am trying to find his re registration if there is one?
For reasons I cant say I dont think he was legally adopted ?
Any ideas thanks

kiterunner · #2 30-08-09, 19:03

As I understand it, you can order a copy of the original birth cert as normal if you have the details you need to order it (name, quarter, district, volume, page number) and it will say "adopted" on it. The adoption registration would not be listed on the births index as there is a separate index for adoptions and it isn't available online.

vallee · #3 30-08-09, 19:05

thanks for your reply
I dont know his date of birth and as its under 50 years ago cant order it ??
The person who had him has forgotten what date he was born ?? believe it or not .

JessBow · #4 30-08-09, 19:07

A birth parent has to register the birth of a child, regardless of their intention to keep it or not. They usually name i, although you might find just ''Boy'' Jones, for instance.

The adoption is then listed on the Adoption register, but after the legal process, which can be any time after, usually about 6 months, but can be much longer after( rarely shorter).

Of course if it wa pre 1927 or not a legal adoption there will be no registation at all.

You can order it - you need the ref, from the indexes

vallee · #5 30-08-09, 19:12

thanks Jess I do know the mother and how long she had him for its a sad story really, he was or is my Nephew.
I thought as he was born less than 50 years ago I could not get the cert without the exact date of birth or am I wrong??

LindyTumblethump · #6 30-08-09, 19:18

You just need to know the quarter then you could order it from the register office where it was originally registered as long as you have childs name and mothers name xxhugxx

vallee · #7 30-08-09, 19:23

thanks Lindy I do

Mandy in Wiltshire · #8 01-09-09, 09:56

That's correct, Val, you can't order a birth certificate from within the last 50 years from the GRO unless you have the exact date of birth. I don't know if this rule applies at local offices, but seeing that it's to do with identity theft/fraud/etc, I should think it would be the same everywhere.

Mandy in Wiltshire · #9 01-09-09, 09:58

PS: Adoptions became legal in 1927 so I'd be surprised if there was an 'unofficial' one as recently as 1966. If it wasn't done legally, I reckon they would've kept his birth name, otherwise it would cause them all sorts of problems.

MargaretMarch · #10 01-09-09, 11:18

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Originally Posted by Mandy in Wiltshire

PS: Adoptions became legal in 1927 so I'd be surprised if there was an 'unofficial' one as recently as 1966. If it wasn't done legally, I reckon they would've kept his birth name, otherwise it would cause them all sorts of problems.

Anyone can change their name to whatever they wish without any formal action. In this case if it wasn't a formal adoption (and I'm sure they went on!) it's likely the child just assumed whatever name the new parents chose and then you are just shown as 'known as' when you have to do anything official. You would of course have to have your original details to show at some point.
Margaret