Sarah Emma Clarence - Page 3 - Genealogists' Forum

Merry · #21 02-09-09, 21:50

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Originally Posted by Shazza34

Zoe where did you find that marriage for Emma ?

What marriage?

I looked for Alice on the previous census but couldn't find her. There's a possible baptism for Alice on the IGI giving her mother's name as Eliza - no father.

I still think the workhouse records are the only chance of resolving this difficult brick wall.

kiterunner · #22 02-09-09, 21:55

I think Zoe meant Sarah Emma's marriage.

Shazza34 · #23 02-09-09, 22:26

Thanks everybody. Looks like I'll have to book a visit to Hertford archives to see the workhouse records. I'll let you know if I find out more. Thanks again.

samesizedfeet · #24 02-09-09, 22:26

I did mean Sarah Emma. Sorry for the confusion, I was attempting to assist whilst pretending to work

samesizedfeet · #25 02-09-09, 22:28

I looked for Alice in previous census too. There is an Alice Smith born Shepreth who is from a very large family (parents William and Eliza, about 10 siblings from memory). But she appears with them in 1891 so can be discounted. Unless it's that rare scenario of a double census entry.

Merry · #26 02-09-09, 22:30

That's what I found too!

I doubt she is duplicated when none of her siblings were in the workhouse (unless that Emma was one, but Emma seems to have been baptised with a single mum)

Phoenix · #27 03-09-09, 13:16

Is it possible that we are looking at things the wrong way round?

Could it be that mother was a Clarence, working in the Royston area when her baby was born?

Dad is Charles, a cabinet maker. So far, so good. When they ask what Mum's maiden name is, she panics, and says Smith? Smith could be a family name, or just a red herring.

Where I know certificates are wrong, it's usually just the father's surname that is out.

kiterunner · #28 03-09-09, 13:18

It's possible, but don't forget that a Smith was a witness at Sarah Emma's wedding.

Merry · #29 03-09-09, 13:31

I suppose Selina Smith might not be a relative though?

I did look for Emma Clarence variants as a birth name for the mum, without any luck.

I see the RO has the Guardian Minute Books but no admission books, so we will have to hope that Emma's case was worthy of some comment. The workhouse seems quite a small one, but I don't know if that's good or bad for info!!