The 1939 Register - findmypast - Genealogists' Forum

Margaret in Burton · #1 27-03-14, 15:16

It's going to take about 2 years but exciting news.

http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2014/ne...t-time-online/

kiterunner · #2 27-03-14, 15:26

That's interesting, Marg, thanks for posting it.

I thought that if you ordered a copy of the entry for a particular household, they would not give you details of anyone who was still alive now, so will they be included in FMP's release, or do they have to go through it all removing all the living people?

Margaret in Burton · #3 27-03-14, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiterunner

That's interesting, Marg, thanks for posting it.

I thought that if you ordered a copy of the entry for a particular household, they would not give you details of anyone who was still alive now, so will they be included in FMP's release, or do they have to go through it all removing all the living people?

It would be an impossible task to remove all living people surely. Think of the research involved in doing that. Interesting that they are releasing this, obviously no 100 year rule was involved.

kiterunner · #4 27-03-14, 15:29

Okay, I can answer my own question, as according to Chris Paton's blog, "information about living individuals will be kept closed for 100 years from their year of birth, or until proof of death has been authenticated."

Kit · #5 28-03-14, 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Okay, I can answer my own question, as according to Chris Paton's blog, "information about living individuals will be kept closed for 100 years from their year of birth, or until proof of death has been authenticated."

B*gger my grandma wont be found as she didn't die in the UK.

I know her details but would have liked to see her on there.

Merry · #6 28-03-14, 09:08

Are we saying that people listed as aged 25 or under in 1939 will not be included in the release, but all those listed as 26 or over will be?

kiterunner · #7 28-03-14, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merry

Are we saying that people listed as aged 25 or under in 1939 will not be included in the release, but all those listed as 26 or over will be?

Apparently so, but it seems there is some kind of process whereby people who were under 25 in 1939 but are known to have died since then can / will be included. But I don't know what the details of this are, whether it will work like it does now when you order a copy of an entry and you have to provide evidence of deaths to see the individual entries for people, or if there will be a team of people going through the entries and checking who has died, for which they would presumably need access to the NHS Registration Books (the National Register numbers were used as NHS numbers when the NHS was set up, and so it is possible to link people on the 1939 Register with the NHS registrations which show whether someone has died - though I guess if they emigrated, or were not identified when they died, their death might not be on the system.) Maybe the NHS are going to provide FMP with just the registration numbers of those who are marked as deceased on their system and then FMP can run those numbers against the 1939 register?

Langley Vale Sue · #8 27-03-14, 16:59

So why the difference between allowing living people on the electoral rolls and phone books etc. online and not allowing them on the 1939 register online?

kiterunner · #9 27-03-14, 17:05

I suppose they consider the information on the 1939 Register to be more sensitive (for instance, date of birth), plus you get the chance to opt out of being listed in the public electoral register and phone book.

There is some information about what data is included on here:
http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service

Langley Vale Sue · #10 27-03-14, 17:18

You have only been able to opt out of one type of published electoral roll for a few years (this century I think) and only phone books if you are ex-directory, so earlier records are readily available. Granted the ERs don't give a date of birth, but the age range is usually available and it doesn't take much to find BMD details of individuals. As far as I can tell the only detail which would be harder to find would be the occupation of the individual and there mustbe a way to find that out if you know where to look.

Surely to remove details of current living persons would require constantly updated worldwide death records, especially given the number of war brides and other post war emigrants.