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John Laycock - Sutton-in-Craven, Yks - MFFMF
Name - John Laycock
Date and place of birth - about 1786, Sutton-in-Craven, Yorkshire Names of parents - unknown Date and place of baptism - unknown Details of each of his or her marriages - Sarah unknown Occupation(s) - publican (1841) farmer (daughter Mary Ann's marriage cert. 1845) weaver (1851) bobbin winder master (1861) Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and censuses found Sutton-in-Craven, Yorkshire 1841, 1851, 1861 (see discussion below) Date, place and cause of death - presumably Sutton, date unknown Date and place of burial - unknown Details of will / administration of their estate - unknown Memorial inscription - unknown |
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We are looking for Mary Ann Laycock's father John Laycock, so named on her marriage cert.
In 1881, my direct ancestors Thomas Berry and his wife Mary Ann (nee Laycock) have her sister Hannah Walton with them in Sutton. I think I can use her to find Mary Ann's father. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=23897456 Thomas Berry 61 Mary Ann Berry 60 John Berry 34 Peter Berry 32 William Berry 23 Hannah Walton 64 sister-in-law <<< Thomas and Mary Ann died in 1890 and 1887 respectively. On the 1891, Hannah Walton is on the same end of town, now with the Heaton family as mother-in-law. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=4917500 David Heaton 44 Sarah Heaton 41 Spencer Heaton 13 Mary Heaton 8 Hannah Walton 75 mother-in-law <<< I can find the index (but not any image) for the marriage of David Heaton to Sarah Walton (freebmd). Marriages Mar 1877 Haggas Charles Keighley 9a 280 Heaton David Keighley 9a 280 <<< Walton Sarah Keighley 9a 280 <<< WILLIAMS Anne Agnes Keighley 9a 280 Working backwards now, I have Hannah in Sutton as head of household on the 1871. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=25506442 Hannah Walton 56 John Walton 24 Sarah Walton 22 Caroline Walton 18 William Walton 16 In 1861 she is in Sutton, head of household, and has John Laycock, widower, as a "boarder". I wish it said he was her father. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=9851842 Hannah Walton 47 Mary Ann Walton 16 John Walton 14 Sarah Walton 12 Caroline Walton 8 William Walton 6 John Laycock 75 Before that she is with her husband Richard Walton in Sutton on the 1851. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=17397132 Richard Walton 48 Hannah Walton 38 Margarett Walton 19 Maria Walton 11 Mary Ann Walton 6 John Walton 4 Sarah Walton 2 And next door is John Laycock, born about 1786. John Laycock 65 <<< Sarah Laycock 65 <<< Thomas Greenwood 29 James Wowell 24 [Wowell is not right, not the same W as elsewhere, so it's ?owell.] I expect this is the marriage of Richard Walton and Hannah Laycock (freebmd): Marriages Sep 1842 HIRD Abigail Skipton 23 413 LAYCOCK Hannah Skipton 23 413 <<< MASOM Elizabeth Skipton 23 413 METCALF Solomon Skipton 23 413 SMITH James Skipton 23 413 TOWNEND John Skipton 23 413 WALKER Grace Skipton 23 413 WALTON Richard Skipton 23 413 <<< And finally here we have Hannah Laycock still living with her father John Laycock who says he is a publican in 1841: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/...w=John+Laycock John Laycock 50 Sarah Laycock 50 Hannah Laycock 24 <<< Martha Laycock 6 James Gill 50 This is Image 4. If you look at the top of the page you will see some Waltons just up the street. The household is split over 2 pages, so if you go back to Image 3 you find Richard Walton right at the bottom. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/...w=John+Laycock Richard Walton 35 Elizabeth Walton 12 Margaret Walton 9 Maria Walton 5 So I think I have made my case that this John Laycock is my Mary Ann Laycock's father. Does anyone agree? |
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Skating ever farther out onto the thin ice:
Birth? There is a possible birth/baptism but I myself can't see what Ancestry is seeing on that image and I don't know how I would ever prove that this is him. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=10916886 Name Birth Date Event Date Event Type Father's Name Mother's Name John Laycock 12 Nov 1786 17 Jan 1787 Baptism Laycock Hannah Laycock Moreover, when I click over to the second page I see another entry listed under February (I'm assuming 1787): http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/...w=John+Laycock John son of John Bottomley Laycock & his wife Susan daughter of Nathan Bailey born 19 Jan 1787, bap 14 Feb 1787 (Ancestry has mistranscribed this as John Bottomley with father John Bottomley and mother Susan Bottomley. I put in a correction.) There is also http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=10916849 John son of Joseph Bailey Laycock & his wife Mary daughter of James Moor[???] born 23 Oct 1786, bap 29 Nov 1786 And possibly http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...&rhSource=8767 08 Aug 1784 John Son of Benjamin Laycock of Glusburn Weaver and Eleanor his Wife 18 Jul 1784 (Glusburn, Sutton and Crosshills form one community.) Death? He is with Hannah in April 1861, but no longer with her and probably gone in 1871. So from freebmd: Deaths Jun 1861 Laycock John Keighley 9a 144 Deaths Sep 1862 Laycock John William Edward Keighley 9a 100 Deaths Sep 1866 Laycock John 77 Keighley 9a 117 Deaths Dec 1866 Laycock John 37 Keighley 9a 123 Deaths Jun 1868 LAYCOCK John 82 Keighley 9a 139 Deaths Jun 1870 Laycock John 19 Keighley 9a 131 Of these, the only one I can tell would be the right age is June qtr 1868, age 82. I can't tell about the June 1861. The census was in April, so it's possible. I think I can rule out the fellow with the multiple middle names. |
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Thank you, Kite. Much appreciated as always. I could barely read anything there. I don't know how you do it!
I had a thread for Mary Ann Laycock. Just in case it's useful: http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ad.php?t=16138 I am burning the midnight oil on towards dawn, so I'll be back later too. |
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GENUKI says that Kildwick was the parish for Sutton in Craven. But it seems to be in North Yorkshire, so not included in the images on ancestry.
FamilySearch has these baptisms at Kildwick: John Laycock born 2 Feb 1780, baptised 9 Apr 1780, parents John and Hannah John Laycock born 8 Dec 1781, baptised 6 Jan 1782, parents Robert and Mary John Laycock born 18 Jul 1784, baptised 8 Aug 1784, parents Benjamin and Eleanor John Laycock born 10 Oct 1786, baptised 22 Oct 1786, parents John and Elizabeth John Laycock born 3 Jun 1790 Sutton Baptist, Kildwick, parents Thomas and Priscilla (image on BMD Registers website) |
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I was hoping we could find a full transcript of those Kildwick parish registers online, to see whether the place of residence is stated, but the only site I can find which has the right date range is Family Relatives, which is a pay site.
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Ah yes, I see that now. I had looked at Volume I of the Kildwick PRs long ago, as they are available on archive.org, but now that things are coming into focus I see that I would need to look at Volume II and that's what Family Relatives has.
There's another angle, and that is the Sutton Baptists which may be exactly where I should be looking. I finally found the death of Mary Ann's father-in-law James Berry there as well as a lot of comings and goings of his wife and daughters. Mary Ann's husband Thomas Berry was active in the Baptist chapel as well, but I think I never convinced myself that the Baptist affiliation traveled up the generations to Mary Ann's own father. I need to look again. Josie Walsh's Craven Indexes contain her transcription of Sutton Baptist Chapel Births 1764-1837. The rest of the children baptized by Thomas and Priscilla don't have names that seem to jibe with my family, so I think maybe I can eliminate that John Laycock. LAYCOCK John Thomas & Priscilla 3.6.1790I have on my hard drive a very detailed spreadsheet of the registers of the Sutton Baptists and I don't know where I got it. I'm hoping I left myself a trail of bread crumbs somewhere but have not found it yet. Some of the Laycock, Berry and Walton names here are now very familiar! LAYCOCK David Baptised by J Walton and added 1.6.1780, excluded 29.5.1783, Restored 4.2.1796, excluded 2.3.1797Thanks again, Kite. |
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Many stones to be turned over here. I won't have any time for awhile.
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