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Old 28-04-20, 10:29
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Default Potter Family (kidderminster/Wrexham) 1800's

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Can I get some more help please? I cannot think of how else to continue as everything I try draws a blank. I am still at the stage where I need help, but unable to offer my help due to me being relatively new. Apologies.

I have a Louisa Potter (b. circa 1867/1868). She was the daughter of Richard and Ann Potter (Jones). Richard was born in Kidderminster and Ann was born in Ruabon, Wales (UK). Richard was born circa 1837 and Ann circa 1842 (married 28/10/1854).

So many trees on Ancestry have Louisa as marrying an Edward Jones and then dying as Louisa Jones in 1893. They also have Louisa having quite a large family (children, grand children etc). However, regardless of how I search (ancestry/FMP/Gro) I cannot find a parish marriage or civil marriage anywhere. Whether one tree on Ancestry knows for definite they got married, and everyone else has just copied this info? I however need to see some sort of evidence before adding to my tree, which I cannot find. A similar issue is where I am finding a family on a census, but some of the children have no record on Gro (also the Potter family). I thought Gro had everything?

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Old 28-04-20, 11:05
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Here is Louisa's birth registration:

POTTER, LOUISA mother's maiden name JONES
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 320

Which censuses do you have her on?

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Old 28-04-20, 11:26
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Thanks Elizabeth. Why would she be Jones Potter? Her mum Ann was nee Jones so maybe kept both surnames?

I have Louisa Potter on the 1871 census, then as a possibility on the 1881 as a servant.
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Nick, the Jones indicates the mother's maiden name, it's not part of Louisa's name.
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Old 28-04-20, 11:41
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Nick, don't worry about not offering help as yet.... we like helping others if we can!

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Richard was born circa 1837 and Ann circa 1842 (married 28/10/1854).
Where did you get those marriage details?

I am looking at a parish register image on FMP for a Richard Potter marrying on that date in Ruabon, but the bride is Priscilla Evans, not Ann Jones. Richard is a shoemaker aged 19 father John Potter a hatter.

I've not looked any further as yet, but wondered if there are two (or more!) Richard Potters in the area, or perhaps yours married twice?
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Old 28-04-20, 11:46
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The marriage with Ann Jones was in 1861:
First name(s) Richard
Last name Potter
Age 25
Birth year 1836
Event year 1861
Banns year -
Marriage year 1861
Marriage date 14 Mar 1861
Marriage place Ruabon
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Potter
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Jones
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's birth year 1842
Spouse's father's last name Jones
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
County Denbighshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage


Yes, Merry, he was a widower.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F880010517%2F1
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Old 28-04-20, 11:47
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Ok, I think it's the same Richard marrying in Ruabon in 1861 (14th March, I think, the 14 is a bit unclear). He is now a widower, still a shoemaker and same father's details. This means (amongst other things) Ann Jones is a more sensible age at her marriage - I was bothered about her being a young teen!

If you don't have a sub to FMP I can type out the rest of the marriage details. Let me know.
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Ooh, snap Elizabeth!
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Here is Priscilla Potter's burial:

First name(s) Priscilla
Last name Potter
Age 23
Birth year 1837
Burial year 1860
Burial date 19 Mar 1860
Place Rhosllanerchrugog
Parish Rhosllanerchrugog
County Denbighshire
Country Wales
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Archive year range -
Record set Denbighshire Burials
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Priscilla Potter was buried 18 Mar 1860 at Rhosllanerchrugog aged 23 (FMP image)
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