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Old 01-02-10, 15:09
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Default heligoland /Wismar Germany ...what do people think ?

Hiya...this is not a "MUST " situation but very frustrating for me personally...in 2008 on FTF and Roots I posted about my GG grandfather...
I am told by my family that my gg grandfather Carl Freidrich Satch b 1848 in Heligoland was a British Subject and Heligoland was British owned and then sold to Germany.......he came to Garston Liverpool as a sailor and met Mary Ellen Jones and they married in 1877 ..they had 2 daughters
Sophia and Adelaide

so I have Carl Freidrich Sacht b 1848...(working out by 1881 census in Garston)

THIS IS WHERE I WANT PEOPLES OPINION
1871 census at Grimsby docks on a ship called "FURTUNA"
Johann Carl Daniel SCHACHT Wismar Germany
Carl Freidrich SCHACHT Wismar Germany....

could somebody have a look at this census and tell me whether this could be the same Carl Freidrich SACHT /SCHACHT ...???
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Old 01-02-10, 15:23
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Hi Allan, what did Carl Freidrich put for his father's details on his marriage cert?
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Old 01-02-10, 15:43
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Heligoland's a very long way from Wismar. Do you have any other evidence that he came from there, apart from family lore?
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Old 01-02-10, 15:47
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Able bodied seaman Merry......I`m convinced it`s the same dad / son but the Heligoland and Wismar pob`s don`t match....would he have put Heligoland because he didn`t want to be known as a German and possibly that`s why SCHACHT became SACHT....or am I being totally romantic in hoping the "FURTUNA" Schachts are Carl and his dad....realistically I shouldn`t I know because on his marriage cert it`s SACHT , Heligoland......allan
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It says Heligoland for Carl's birthplace in 1901.

That's what I was thinking about them being a long way apart!
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And his dad's name on the cert??!
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Johann.....NO Carl and NO Daniel ...just Johann.....thanks.....allan
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I wouldn't have thought it was a disadvantage to be a German citizen in England in those days. Naturalisation wasn't compulsory, as far as I know.
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Having looked around on the various censuses etc, it doesn't seem to be that uncommon a name, so it could well be a different person.
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Thank you all....I was probably clutching at straws....so I`ll put the 1871 census on Furtuna to one side just in case.....So if anyone sees the name Sacht anywhere , give me a shout....lol...cheers...allan
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