Who were their parents? - Genealogists' Forum

KiwiChris · #1 20-09-22, 23:43

Philip Cuthbert Anderson b Sept q 1848 Bethnal Green, and Clara Rebecca Margaret Anderson born June q 1851 Shoreditch, mmn Cuthbert for both births.
They were baptised together 7 May 1851 St Jude Bethnal Green, parents Minnie and Henry Anderson officer in East India Services.
https://www.ancestry.com.au/discover...=successSource

1851 Cuthbert Anderson is a visitor with Elizabeth Garrett
https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-b...E1ODQ0LjAuMC4w

1861 Philip C Anderson is a visitor in the household of Seth Watson
https://www.ancestry.com.au/discover...=successSource

1861 Clara (b1851 Calcutta) is a visitor in Oxford in the home of Rebekah BOUSFIELD
https://www.ancestry.com.au/discover...=successSource

At marriage Clara says her father was Henry ANDERSON clerk in Holy Orders
https://www.ancestry.com.au/discover...w/6668438:1623

1851 there is a Minie Anderson b c1828 London, married but no husband as a visitor in Shoreditch with William and Louisa Godwin
https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-b...E2MDQ5LjAuMC4w

Online family trees have a number of different people as the parents including Henry Lacon Anderson who was in the India Civil Service, but he married in India in 1841, Anne Grace Agnes Stuart and he is still married to her in 1871.

Philip Cuthbert Anderson (who is my research interest) arrived in New Zealand in 1865. He was educated at High Wycombe Grammar school, and was a school teacher when he first arrived here before being ordained in 1873.

He was said to be nephew of Octavius Lawes Woodthorpe Bousfield who was a surveyor in NZ, and who was a son of Rebecca Bousfield, who appears to be the same person that Clara is a visitor with in 1861

I cannot find an Anderson/Cuthbert marriage that fits, nor can I find anything more of Minnie or Henry.

Can anyone see what I, (and most of the family researchers) might have missed??!

KiwiChris · #2 21-09-22, 01:22

I have just come across this
https://knowledgebank.org.nz/audio/d...susan-siddles/

There is some information about his parents, but it is unclear where that information came from, his diaries or some other source. I am guessing that maybe online trees have been used.

Funny, it is actually my local library involved, so I might head down there and see if I can make contact with the people who transcribed the diaries.

Merry · #3 21-09-22, 06:51

I've not looked at everything as your au links don't work for me. However, the thing that sticks out is that the baby Clara should be on the 1851 census. You say it states born Calcutta on the 1861 census, but her birth was registered in Shoreditch and her bap says born 31 Mar 1851. If something had gone awry and she was really born in India, if the date is right, she couldn't have got to the UK in time for her baptism!

I'm not saying that Minie Anderson 1828 isn't the right person, but where is her child!?

Merry · #4 21-09-22, 07:15

As I still haven't looked at all your links, I may not have taken in everything, but these people:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...b&pId=10864486

(or search Fanny E Anderson b 1845, living at St George Hanover Square in 1871)

....might be connected. The child, Florence (Florence Percy Anderson b 1870 Q3 St G H Square) also has mmn Cuthbert and there's an Alice Cuthbert, visitor, in the house.

At the bap of Florence Percy Anderson her father is Henry Percy Anderson occ 'Foreign Office'

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ue&pId=2241509

Merry · #5 21-09-22, 07:18

There's a death for a Henry Percy Anderson in 1896 (St G H Sq), b abt 1831.

And a Probate entry....which has him as Sir Henry Percy Anderson! He died at 53 Eaton Square (Belgravia), London.

Merry · #6 21-09-22, 07:28

There's a marriage for Henry Percy Anderson and Fanny Isabella Cuthbert in 1869 at St Paul's, Wilton Place, Westminster. He is a bachelor. His father is recorded as Robert Anderson, clerk in Holy Orders. Her father is William Cuthbert Esq.

This Henry is just about old enough to be the father of the other children, but looks a bit scandelous - no marriage to Minnie and then marries her younger relation?!! Of course we don't know it's the same man yet! lol

Merry · #7 21-09-22, 07:35

Hard to know which way to go first, but here is the birth reg for Fanny Isabella Cuthbert:

CUTHBERT, FANNY ISABELLA COOKSON
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in THE HEXHAM UNION Volume 25 Page 297

Could she be Minnie's sister?

Answer to that is Unlikely as when Fanny appears on her first census in 1851 her parents are only aged 37 and 29 and her eldest sibling in the house is aged 9.

Merry · #8 21-09-22, 07:56

I looked at 53 Eaton Sq in 1881, 1891 and 1901, but nothing to help.

Merry · #9 21-09-22, 08:03

There are a few newspaper entries for Henry Percy. I've only read one so far, but it says his parents were Rev Robert Anderson of Brighton (Sussex) and the Hon. Caroline Dorothea Shore, dau of the First Lord Teignmouth. No info on wife or children in this snippet.

I'm still wondering if all this is a huge coincidence, but can't seem to eliminate Henry Percy yet!

Merry · #10 21-09-22, 08:12

Hmmm, I had hoped Henry Percy might have been a little older than his death suggests, if he was going to father those two older children. However, in 1841 he is with his parents in Brighton and is aged 10.

Am I wasting my time? lol