FMP help please

[Merry]

I will have a look back at Mary's post in a min (am on phone which is S-L-O-W!)

Goodness knows who Patrick is! Might not be very easy to work out!!

[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Mary mentioned a Hannah in post #188. I wonder who the witness Patrick Scannell is, though. An uncle? Cousin?

Could it be Margaret and Patrick's father - it doesn't say he is deceased on the record, does it?

[kiterunner]

But their father's name was Bartholomew. Unless it's another Bat / Pat mixup.

[Shona]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

But their father's name was Bartholomew. Unless it's another Bat / Pat mixup.

Clearly my mind is mixing them all up, too!

This is Mary's post:

I think Margaret Scannell had a sister who married William Gorman (haven't found her baptism, but her father's name was given as Bartholomew when she got married. I haven't found anything obvious for her in the prison records (at least there's no Hannah Gorman aka Scannell).

[Mary from Italy]

I found that on Familysearch if you want to check it out.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/...3Abartholomew~

[kiterunner]

Oh, okay, it probably won't be that Hannah then because she got married in 1862 so she would have been Hannah Gorman in 1891.

[Shona]

Recapping:

Baptised in Cork Urban to Bartholomew and Margaret Holmes:

Mary - 1 Oct 1868
Margaret - 27 Sept 1869
Honora - 2 March 1872 (this will be the Nora who appears on Margaret's prison records are her next of kin).

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Shona

Recapping:

Baptised in Cork Urban to Bartholomew and Margaret Holmes:

Mary - 1 Oct 1868
Margaret - 27 Sept 1869
Honora - 2 March 1872 (this will be the Nora who appears on Margaret's prison records are her next of kin).

I have those and also Patrick and Johanna who were born earlier (1866 and 1863 from memory).

I think Margaret Scannell had a sister who married William Gorman (haven't found her baptism, but her father's name was given as Bartholomew when she got married. I haven't found anything obvious for her in the prison records (at least there's no Hannah Gorman aka Scannell).

The sister who married Wm Gorman can't be Margaret Scannell's sister if she was married in 1862. She could possibly have been the sister of Margaret's dad, Bart Scannell, though, as he probably married in the early 1860s and I think his father was also Bartholomew if I've picked out the right baptism (1839, father Bart, mother Catherine Brien). I can't find another bap with the same mother's details though, but that might be because I'm supposed to be cooking dinner, not doing lookups!

[Mary from Italy]

Originally Posted by Merry

The sister who married Wm Gorman can't be Margaret Scannell's sister if she was married in 1862. She could possibly have been the sister of Margaret's dad, Bart Scannell, though, as he probably married in the early 1860s and I think his father was also Bartholomew if I've picked out the right baptism (1839, father Bart, mother Catherine Brien).

Yes, sorry, I hadn't noticed that when I originally posted.

[Merry]

Excerpt from the reply from the Sisters of Mercy regarding DH's time in St Joseph's Industrial School, Passage West, Co Cork:

.........David Hutton was admitted to the school on 10th July 1900. He was the 315th admission to St Joseph's and left on 22nd June 1904 to transfer to Greenmount Industrial school in Cork. Such transfers were standard as St Joseph's was an industrial school for junior boys ad accommodated boys to the age of ten at which point they transferred to an industrial school for senior boys.............the Greenmount school was run by the Presentation Brothers........the most recent contact address we have is Mount St Joseph, Blarney St, Cork.