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Old 22-01-14, 13:52
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Default George Purkis born 1842 - emigrated to the USA?

George Purkis is my great-grandfather's brother.

This is all I have on him:

son of James and Charlotte Jane Purkis
born 26 Apr 1842
christened 20 May 1842 St Mary’s Portsea

1851 census
PORTSEA ISLAND, Hampshire
HO107 piece 1657 folio 468 page 32
Trafalgar Place, Portsea, Portsmouth
James Purkis Head 41 Shipwright Hants Portsea
Charlotte Wife 38 Hants Portsea
Ellen Daughter 13 Scholar Hants Portsea
James Son 11 Scholar Hants Portsea
George Son 9 Scholar Hants Portsea
Henry Son 6 Hants Portsea
Alfred Son 4 Hants Portsea
Ann Douse Servant U 16 House Servant Kent Deal


My uncle drew up a family tree in the 1980s and put a note on the tree to the effect that George emigrated to the USA, but no further details.

His brother Henry Hatch Purkis emigrated to Australia.
Alfred was killed on HMS Captain.

My only other thought was that he joined the Royal Navy, but no naval records for him (just his uncle of the same name).

Can anyone see sight of him in the USA, please?
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Old 22-01-14, 14:29
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The 1900 US census has a George Purkiss age 60, says he was born Feb 1840 in England, widowed, occupation porter, year of immigration 1888, cousin of one or other of a married couple James and Annie P Bratt ages 55 and 54, both born England. There are a couple of other George Purkisses but their ages are out by quite a few years. The birth month of Feb should rule him out, but sometimes people do have a wrong birth month on the census so I will see if I can find any more info on him. Mind you, if the year of immigration is right, he would be on a few more English censuses so probably not the right person. Unfortunately he is in New Jersey in 1900 and there are not many NJ records online.
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Elizabeth, is this not him in 1861? (in England)
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Then in 1891 there is a George Purkiss, Marine Engineer, age 50, single, born Portsmouth, in the Sculcoates Union Workhouse in Yorkshire:
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Elizabeth, is this not him in 1861? (in England)
1861 census
OOh, yes, Kate!! Very good. I couldn't find him on FMP. I thought he might be in the Navy. Thanks.

His brother William John emigrated to Philadelphia, much later, after a spell in Strangeways for bigamy!

I couldn't find his parents in 1861 either, even with a census reference check - they are on Ancesry.
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FMP don't have the 1861 record.

I think I have seen the Yorkshire record before.

I wonder why my uncle believed he went to the USA. Perhaps he was muddling him with William John. Sad if he ended up away from his family by himself.
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I've returned to this. I've been without my main computer for 2 weeks but now I have it back I thought I'd try to find out some more.

FMP have his naval records. Initially he had a good service record but then the demon drink affected his behaviour and he was discharged in 1870.

However, I also found the following:

First name(s) Geo
Last name Purkis
Birth year 1842
Birth date 1842
Age 30
Death year 1872
Death date 15 Dec 1872
Reported date 1874
Death place Drowned
Place Rinaldo
Country Great Britain
Type At Sea
Vessel name Rinaldo
Departure port St Kath Dk HO
Source Registers Of Wages And Effects Of Deceased Seamen, 1852-1889
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference BT 153
Box 0014
Page 65
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...0014%2f001-065


Was it possible he could enlist again or is this someone else?
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From Wikipedia:

Rinaldo United Kingdom The ship was sighted whilst on a voyage from Leith, Lothian to San Francisco, California, United States. No further trace, presumed foundered with the loss of all hands.[89]
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As far as I can make out from newspaper searches, Crew List Index Project, etc. the Rinaldo was a merchant ship, not a Royal Navy ship, in which case he would not have had to rejoin the Royal Navy to serve on it.
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However, it is likely that the George Purkis in the 1891 census is our George as he is a "Marine Engineer". He was an Engineer in the RN, like many of his family.
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