Keeping it in the family *UPDATED - now with birth certs*

Originally Posted by samesizedfeet

I think Ellen Emma Shaw is trying to hide the fact her father is the same as her husband's by naming her grandfather instead

Sorry I've just gone back over the other thread you posted and realised Ellen and Titus did have a child Edwin Charles Higgs, son, c1880, Newark Notts.

I am a bit confused.

Edited to change child's name.

[samesizedfeet]

Err, yes

She had some from her first marriage but I'm pretty sure that there was one born a while after 1st husband died

Are you going to tell your friend what the evidence suggests?

I suppose the next step would be to order Edwin's birth certificate.

I think I've caught up your friend is descended from Ellen's older sister Harriet.

[samesizedfeet]

I just realised I added this to teh wrong thread so I'm going to attempt to move everything over to the right one

Sorry - was a bit excited

Originally Posted by samesizedfeet

Err, yes

She had some from her first marriage but I'm pretty sure that there was one born a while after 1st husband died

I expect this is Edwin's Birth Reg

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
HIGGS Edwin Charles Newark 7b 372

That was 4 years after the marriage.

[samesizedfeet]

okay - replies now attached to the right thread. Hope I didn't confuse anyone too much

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Originally Posted by samesizedfeet

okay - replies now attached to the right thread. Hope I didn't confuse anyone too much

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Not anymore than I am already

[Olde Crone]

Well, you confused me, cos I was just reading it all when you switched threads - thought I'd gone mad.

Um, there IS a birth registered for an Ellen Godden in 1842 - is it possible she was a cuckoo in the nest?

I have a 2 z GGF who appears as son and his birth cert "confirms" this. his baptism is a different thing altogether though...he is the illegitimate child of his "father's" sister, so has in fact been unofficially adopted by his blood uncle and wife, and those two have lied to the Registrar.

I'm straw clutching of course with the above...but what earthly purpose would this marriage ceremony serve, other than to get a marriage allowance from the Army? If this incest was discovered, both would have gone to prison for a LONG time - for the incest AND for the fraudulent marriage.

Also, can't remember if this was mentioned before - glazier to shoemaker is a great big jump in occupations.

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That's what I thought but it'd still make Ellen Titus' aunt and half sister too if you go on that sort of logic.

[samesizedfeet]

Okay - so I probably need to be ordering birth certificates for Ellen Emma and Titus.

My curiosity is an expensive indulgence