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22-04-19, 05:51
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Marjorie Phyllis MAGGS
She was b 1908 Garston Liverpool, mothers maiden name MILLISON
1911 she is in Camberwell with her widowed mother Millicent MAGGS b c1883 Norbiton. There does not appear to be a Millicent MILLISON birth that I can find. Marjorie Phyllis MAGGS married Rev Charles Lewis GAGE-BROWN 1957 Kensington I have spent all afternoon chasing around trying to find who Marjorie's father was, and where Millicent came from and what happened to her, including chasing some complicated marriages of Millicent DAVIS to Henry Albert DOBBINS, followed by John Alfred MAGGS, followed by Albert Job WILTSHIRE, only find she died in 1903, so cannot have had a baby in 1908! I know, she was not nee MILLISON and was too old, but the coincidence was there! Can anyone find a birth and a marriage for Millicent and what happened to her?
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22-04-19, 10:23
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I have been looking but not found anything yet. Of course it would help if we knew the father's details from Marjorie's birth or marriage cert. I just keep imagining Millicent being asked for her maiden name and panicking and just saying "Millicent" with the registrar taking it as "Millison"! There is a Millicent Maggs birth around the right time but in totally the wrong place. Will look some more later.
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22-04-19, 14:00
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Oh, apparently the Millicent Maggs born 1882 in Gloucestershire emigrated to Australia in 1883 where she got married in 1911, so I guess we can rule her out!
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22-04-19, 18:52
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I have to say I thought "Millicent Millison, seriously?"
I might go back and look at the marriages and families of Millicent nee DAVIS in case she fits in there somewhere and borrowed the name as a solo mother. But they were all born and lived in Bristol.
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22-04-19, 21:50
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I don't know abouth this, but it keeps bugging me, so I thought I'd pass it on for someone else to try and get to grips with!
The first couple of electoral roll entries for Marjorie Phyllis Maggs show her living at the same address as a Daisy Millicent Williams. For a couple of hours I thought they were probably both servants or similar, particularly as the address said Clarence House! But then I saw this death which may, or may not be the same person: Name: Daisy Millicent Williams Death Age: 88 Birth Date: 4 Mar 1883 Registration Date: Sep 1971 Registration district: Hammersmith Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5b Page: 1555 She left a lot of money - £66K. I can't work out who she is, even if not the right Millicent. Also, there was a Williams living at the same address as Marjorie in 1939. He was Edward Alfred Williams (middle name according to the 1939 eroll) b 28 Apr 1903, single. Obviously could be just a coincidence though.
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22-04-19, 22:43
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Oh, I definitely came across the name Daisy earlier on when I was looking at this. Will see if I can find it...
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22-04-19, 22:45
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Ah yes, birth Jan-Mar 1883 Kingston district (which I think would have been the district for Norbiton): MILLICENT, Daisy. MMN is Tandey.
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23-04-19, 06:12
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Henry MILLICENT possibly married Emma TANDEY Dec q 1880 Islington and the same people are also listed as marrying Sept q 1881 St Olave
Henry was a 59 yr old widower fellmonger, Emma was a 39 yr old spinster at the 1880 marriage and he was a 49 year old widower, furrier, and she was a 37yr old spinster at the 1881 marriage! They kept their same fathers though. 1881 There is a married Emma MILLICENT b c1844 Bedford living St Mary Islington with no husband at home. 1881 widowed Henry MILLICENT fellmonger is a boarder in Hillingdon, b c1822 Newbury And then they vanish! 1891 there is a Daisy MILLISON b c1883 Bermondsey niece of Abraham and Mary TYSOE in Felmersham It looks like Mary is nee TANDEY But is Millicent MAGGS really Daisy their daughter??!!
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When we have passed a certain age, the soul of the child we were and the souls of the dead from whom we have sprung come to lavish on us their riches and their spells (Marcel Proust) Christine
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23-04-19, 06:41
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Thinking about the money, Marjorie Phyllis left quite a lot as well, she died 1976 and left about 120K, in 1972 her husband left 58K
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23-04-19, 06:43
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Oooh, that's hopeful!!
Hmm, did the parents marry twice?: Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%) Millicent Henry Islington 1b 384 SCUTCHING Joseph Islington 1b 384 Scutchings Joseph Islington 1b 384 Tandey Emma Islington 1b 384 Warby Charlotte Islington 1b 384 Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%) Chadd Thomas St. Olave 1d 362 MILLICENT Henry St. Olave 1d 362 TANDEY Emma St. Olave 1d 362 TUCKER Louisa Maria St. Olave 1d 362 Both of these marriages are in the LMA records: St John's, Upper Holloway, Islington 27 Dec 1880 Henry Millicent 49 widower furrier 42 Duncombe Rd father William Millicent decd wool sorter Emma Tandy 37 spinster 42 Duncombe Rd father Thomas Tandey dec'd builder witnesses Mary Lloyd and Harriet Driffield All signed, banns and then...… St Anne's Bermondsey, Southwark 27 Jul 1881 details basically the same except Henry is now aged 59, fell monger of 36 (?) Abbeyfield Rd and Emma is 39, same address. Witnesses Mary Ann Pryor and Annie Pryor All signed, banns Of course the 1881 census was between these two marriages. There's more than one Henry Millicent in the fur trade, but the likely one is: 38 Rockingham St, Hillingdon Henry Millicent boarder widower 59 fell monger b Berkshire, Newbury Whilst Henry hasn't acknowledged his 1880 marriage, Emma has: 42 Duncombe Rd Islington Emma Millicent wife married 37 b Bedford Living at the same number but a different household are George and Harriet Driffield (Harriet was a witness at the first marriage) They are not jumping out at me in 1891! Henry doesn't seem to have died any time, but there is this death for Emma: Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%) Millicent Emma Bateman 46 Camberwell 1d 563 I looked back to see if Emma had a middle name at her birth reg. Best fit is: TANDY, EMMA mmn PATEMAN GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in BEDFORD UNION Volume 06 Page 58 That's close enough, probably! Right place, a little early, good enough name matches! I looked for siblings for Daisy. I thought Emma Louisa Millicent b Kingston Q2 1881 might be a sister, but the mmn is Tilley. A mistake? They are not making it easy, are they?!! Oooh, here's Henry again on FMP: 1911 census: 18 Alma Road Bermondsey, Bermondsey, London & Surrey Henry Millicent Head Married Male 89 1822 Felmongers Newbery Berkshire Teresa Millicent Wife Married Female 45 1866 - Islington London Years married etc not filled in. Still can't find a death or a marriage to Teresa, but now we know he should be around in 1891 and 1901.... Time for a new post I think!
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