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Oooh, they are both minors!!
The will also has ref to several relatives of Ann - Her brother (so her maiden name is here - Lee, Tee or something similar), a married sister and a married sister of her late husband, so loads to look at. This will was signed 4 Jan 1792, so both Ann's children should have been born after Jan 1771. I think that should eliminate the Manchester marriage in 1790 as the marriage licence says over 21. I don't know about the 1791? Cov marriage as the transcription doesn't have much detail.
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31-07-22, 14:10
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Since this mentions Abraham Herbert it must be relevant:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...1-a0270126b2a4 But if Jonathan Bray's wife was also a Bray by birth, some or all of the other Brays mentioned in that might be on her side rather than his! Though most probably they were cousins of some kind to each other.
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31-07-22, 14:23
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So, here are the three sigs. The first is from 1813 administration of the estate of JB dec'd and is the sig of JB, ribbon manufacturer.
The second is of JB ribbon manufacturer, but this man was a bachelor in 1815 whilst your JB had six? children by that date. I think he (the 1815 groom) and wife Elizabeth are still alive in 1841. She passed away in 1850 aged 60 according to the newspaper and he then vanishes!! The third is the witness to the marriage of your Jonathan's son James Bray to Sarah Bunney in 1828. 1813.JPG 1815.JPG 1828.JPG IMHO the first and last signatures are v similar but the middle one less so, which would fit with what I want, but I'm no nearer to finding who your JB married and whether he had one or two brides (or more!).
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31-07-22, 14:32
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JB senr married Ann Jee in 1767 in Cov. No mention of the church on the transcription.
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I can't find an image for this:
Name: Jonathan Bray Gender: Male Baptism Date: 26 Jul 1777 Baptism Place: Saint Michael,Coventry,Warwick,England Father: Jonathan Bray Mother: Ann FHL Film Number: 428986, 428987 Nothing for Sarah that I could see.
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You won't believe this!!
having spent an age on this, I just did a search on FMP and the baps (of some anyway) are there!!
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James 20 May 1806 Jonathan and Elizabeth
Elizabeth 21 May 1807 Jonathan and Elizabeth Mary 03 Jun 1809 Jonathan and Elizabeth Charles 22 Feb 1811 Jonathan and Elizabeth so that's four of the six before Helen. Ann and Emily are missing at the mo. kiterunner, I seem to have missed some of your posts. I see I had the wrong death/burial for Ann and her birth was probably also after 1800, so I'm thinking Jonathan and Eliz married about 1800 and as you found, Eliz died in 1819. This fits perfectly. Just no marriage at the moment!!
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